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I’m the anon who dislikes Juliette (thanks for not hating me!) I agree about the pushing us to hate her and about Nick needing some sense of normalcy. About him being better off without her though maybe he wouldn’t have been at the start of the season (putting aside personal opinion, that would’ve ruined him) or at any other point but at the end of the season with the writers pushing her so hard in that direction and all she did, I think he’s better off not being with someone who caused him pain

I hear you, anon. A person who hurts you repeatedly and takes pleasure in it is not a person you want to stay in a relationship with. And although I think the nature of human interactions is that we inevitably cause each other pain at times, I do think that if Juliette survives, Nick might forgive her for the things she did but they could never be the way they were again, even if they actually talked everything out and both admitted the places they were at fault and the places they weren’t.

One could also argue it the other way, though: Juliette would have been better off without Nick. She would have been better off not being with someone who lied to her, repeatedly put her life in danger, dismissed her emotions whenever they weren’t convenient for him, and caused her a lot of physical harm as well as emotional pain for several years.

Their relationship was very cute at times, but at others it was one-sided and extremely unhealthy, since the very first season. Nick’s greatest flaw is his self-absorption and avoidance, while Juliette’s is/was that if she loved someone, she would be too accommodating of their wants and needs, to the point of ignoring her own. It was a toxic combination that would have torn them apart eventually, in my opinion. Her transformation and all that followed just hastened things along.

I’m still not over the fact that Juliette burned down Nick’s aunts trailer, I mean that’s his whole family history and all he has left of his aunt. It still hurts me (mainly cause of all of those books that went up in flames).

Believe me, the sight of all those books going up in flames hurt me too…but then I started to think about it a little more. Yeah, it’s the Grimms’ history…but a lot of it is a history of remorseless, unforgiving brutality and ruthless murder.

The Grimms are not a long line of people like Nick, remember. They weren’t feared because they were reasonable and compassionate. Even Nick has been shown at times to be horrified and disgusted by his ancestors’ actions.

So…on the one hand yes, Juliette burned down his trailer full of vital information but on the other, she didn’t by any means burn his family history. Nick’s family history is his memories of his aunt and his father and mother, most of which actually had nothing to do with the Wesen world and the Grimm legacy. 

There’s actually no reason whatsoever to think Nick had nothing of his family other than what was in that trailer. The “normal” things, like photo albums, cherished memories of the childhood he had with Marie? I doubt they were there. Why would they be? And why on earth would he value his family’s long history of blood and brutality over that?

Confession time: I never ever liked Juliet but I don’t think I full on hated her until the last bit of the last season. I think Nick is better off without her (no disrespect for Nickette shippers). Please don’t hate me!!

There’s nothing inherently wrong with disliking Juliette because you don’t connect with her character, or don’t think her arc is interesting, or don’t like her choices. My problem–as I’m sure you’ve seen if you follow my rants on FYNB–is with the misogyny behind some of the reasons people cite for disliking Juliette.

But I honestly think toward the end the writers were pushing us to hate her, only to try and pull an about-face and give us emotional whiplash at the end with Nick’s grief over her “death” (I’m still in denial). It worked for me, because I love Juliette, and it worked for some people who just hate to see Nick in pain…but I’m not sure it worked as well as the writers might have hoped for those who fully dove into hating her toward the end. Or maybe the writers just wanted us to hate her and weren’t expecting Bitsie and David to sell it as well as they did. I haven’t decided yet.

But the point is, there’s nothing inherently wrong with disliking a character. I of course disagree that Nick is better off without her, and I really worry what he’s going to do without her around to provide some sense of normalcy and stability in his life…and the lives of the rest of Team Grimm to boot. He wasn’t doing so great towards the end when she was transformed, so I can’t imagine how bad off he’ll be now if she’s actually dead.

But no. I don’t hate you, Nonny.

You have a really good music taste:) love your blog also… (your theories are really interesting). Do you think Kelly is dead or alive by the way?

Thanks! I’m sure the other mods are pleased too.

Me, personally, I think she must be. You don’t tend to come back from a head in a box, and if the show starts to go down the miraculous resurrection every season route, it would be a poor move. Sometimes death is death and has to stay that way – much as I love Kelly, I think she is dead.

My path with Juliette was a bit like a roller coaster, one minute i liked her and the next i couldn’t stand her, but the last few episodes of season 4 confirmed my dislike for her and i am glad she’s “dead” (although i think she’s not technically dead). If she does somehow survive/resurrects in season 5, i hope it’s the old juliette, and not hexenbiest juliette.

I mean…you’re entitled to your opinion, anon. I personally loved both Juliette and Jujubiest, and thought that both kind of got the shit end of the stick when it came to how the other people, in particular Nick, treated them. I hope she’s back in any form, and I hope the rest of Team Grimm will be written back into character soon.

I’m not suprised trubel shot Jullette cause she’s always been a a shoot first and ask questions later kind of girl. That’s what happens when you are forced to kill just to survive like she was before she met nick. Oh and that doesn’t mean she made the right choice this time.

I’m not particularly happy with that scene for many reasons, not least of which the notion of Trubel unhesitatingly firing two arrows into a woman who took her into her home, supported her, fed her massive amounts of bacon, and who Trubel very clearly adored and got attached to before she left.

There are a couple of hints in the finale that something has happened with Trubel since she was last in Portland. She’s apparently working with Special Agent Chavez, for one thing…and keeping secrets from the rest of the team about it.

For another, she seems to be way too comfortable and cavalier now about killing people…the weirdly casual way she was about the head. As pragmatic as Trubel used to be about violence, she was also deeply fearful of and traumatized by it before meeting Nick and Co. And afterwards, she was violent when necessary but never quite so…eager or casual about it?

I dunno, I just think something pretty bad is up with Trubel that contributed to her being perfectly willing to take a kill shot at a woman who treated her like family. It’s just that the hints got lost in all the other mess that was going on in that finale.

Here you go: tvline(.)com/2015/05/15/grimm-juliette-dies-dead-season-5-spoilers/

Um…anon…I’m pretty sure that entire interview was a giant trollfest. Seriously, I’ve seen it before: writers troll the ever-loving fuck out of fandom during the hiatus. If something is going to happen, they’ll tell you it won’t. If something isn’t going to happen, they’ll tell you it will.

You cannot trust literally anything you hear about Grimm season 5 in the upcoming months, because only some of it will be true, a lot of it will be misleading, and most of it will be out-and-out trolling designed to get the fandom all excited/riled for the show’s return.

But even if that weren’t the case, the entire tone of this interview is light, joking, full of the creators laughing and not being serious, and when asked if they’re being serious, refusing to answer the question directly. I mean c’mon, this is a literal quote about what Nick will be doing in season 5 from that interview: “All the episodes are him, grieving. It’s 12 episodes of him, alone in a room, feeling bad.”

Has it been said on whether Juliette’s actually dead? I’m still holding out hope, but A.) Trubel did that without a second thought and B.) those people showing up. Trubel was on the phone with someone and I don’t think it was really Nick. What if she shot her with something to help her and the woman was telling them to hurry because they had to be quick to help Juliette. They said two deaths happened, but maybe in the premiere she comes back as herself or with the beast tamed a bit. I hope.

I really like your hopeful theory and will proceed to make it my headcanon for the hiatus, because all other options are intolerable to contemplate!

I’m sad cause Juliette is really gone as the ones behind the show said. But I’m even more upset because it sounds like they are hinting at a whole adaline/Nick romance and that just annoys the hell out of me. He can get with the one who caused all the problems, but was all weird with Juliette and all.

Hi Nonny! Would you mind citing your source for that information? Because I find anything said in interviews regarding finales or upcoming seasons HIGHLY suspect, considering a) writers and cast members are huge trolls during hiatus, and b) they would never give away big information like that off-screen, not if they knew what they were about, and I think it’s safe to say they do by this point.