Got to say I’m surprised I didn’t see anyone mention the Geier as one of the scariest monsters of the week? Got to say Organ Grinder is one of those episodes that was so creepy (and sad tbf) that it stuck with me (Though I have to say the Mr Sandman episode was one of the worst for me too since I have a thing with eye horror oops)

Oh the Geier were definitely scary, and that episode was intense. Come to think of it, I’m surprised they don’t make more people’s list of scariest Wesen myself!

Sorry if my assumption is wrong, but in the last answer you talked about sexual assault and the whole “rape treated as romance” thing, and I was just wondering if that was about what Adalind did to Nick by pretending to be Juliette? That was the only thing I could think of that fit the description. In any case, I just wanted to say I agree!

That’s the one. A lot of people disagree with me on this because Nick wasn’t being held down and screaming no. Those people have an incomplete understanding of consent.

Nick did not consent to sleep with Adalind, and at that point in his life he would not have. He consented to sleep with Juliette.

And any time you consent to one thing sexually and are subjected to another without your consent, that is rape. Any time your ability to make a fully autonomous decision about having sex is compromised and someone takes advantage of that, it is rape.

In the real world, this could look like someone going farther than you agreed to without asking, or coercing you into sex while you’re drunk or high, or putting something in your drink to make you compliant, or slipping off the condom during sex (yeah, people have done that).

In a magical fictional world, this also includes any instance where magic is used to get a yes or override a no, or where magic interferes with a person’s ability to decide…be it love potions, shape shifting, twinning spells, or anything else.

In Adalind’s specific case, that brings the count of men she’s raped on screen to three: Hank while he was under the influence of her love potion cookies, Renard while he was dealing with her obsession spell, and Nick while she was disguised as Juliette using the twinning spell.

This may sound petty, but the only thing i could think of when i read about the spin-off was the dark possibility for anything ooc!Adalind or yet more rape-treated-as-romance. All the people involved never addressed their mistakes as far as i’m aware. I doubt they care. It makes me more sad than hopeful. :(

It’s not petty. It’s understandable. Those writing decisions hurt a lot of fans, and angered many more. I had friends who had to leave the fandom completely over the choices the writers made in seasons 5-6.

And in my opinion the route they chose to go with Adalind and Nick will always be the worst decision the writers made. It killed the ratings, and quite probably killed the show itself. Without that, I honestly think we would be starting season seven right now, with no end in sight.

All of that being said, we have some things going into this spinoff that we didn’t have last time around:

A woman on the show’s creative team. Although I loved them, the Grimm writers were a total boys club.

And I’m not saying that men are automatically less sensitive than women when it comes to matters surrounding sexual assault, or that women are automatically moreso, but statistically speaking they can be.

The #MeToo movement. Grimm lived and died before #MeToo and #TimesUp had gained a solid foothold in Hollywood. It was easy to ignore or write poorly about sexual assault. It was easy to be maliciously sexist or just lazy and uninformed.

Those days are gone, at least for the moment. Even people who somehow don’t care about the issues still have to care about the optics.

Now, whether these things will translate into better handling of sexual assault on Grimm 2.0 is anyone’s guess. But personally, I choose to hope that a group of creators who failed us in one respect have gotten better and will not fail us again.

That may be naive of me. We’ll just have to wait and see.

juliette got a bad rap because she was nick’s girlfriend and not a grimm or wessen, so fans just hated her. but she was sweet and supportive and goodhearted and has the worst most traumatizing story of all the grimm characters and I think its rotten that adalind got her happy ending and her boyfriend AND her baby like… wow (and fans liked meechy sweet adalind and hated sincere sweet juliette and that’s just hypocritical) if they ever make a s7 or movie they should fix her story – Bella

But where is the lie?

One of these days I’m going to finish my season 7 fanfic in which Juliette’s story gets a happier ending, Adalind gets to be the big bad she was always meant to be from Day 1, and Sean Renard gets squished like a bug under her stylish heels during her Path of Destruction. Not because I hate Sean, but because let’s face it: if Adalind went Full Bad someone would have to die for Dramatic Effect, and there is no way I’m killing any other member of Team Grimm (or any of the babies) because they have done nothing to deserve it but like…Sean really messed up and he never showed a single ounce of remorse about it. Maybe he sees Meisner one last time, as he’s dying (maybe while saving/protecting someone else), and they go into the light together or whatever (or something way less sappy).

Ahem. Anyway. Yeah. Some things need fixing in that ending.

(EDIT: I finally wrote it and am in the process of editing it. Chapter 1 is here.)

I was rewatching grimm and Monroe was translating a page on the wesen that aunt Marie was said to be with in that episode, and said something about them having “very large sausages” and I suddenly realized why Nick was making the very dismayed “I don’t want to be here for this, why” kind of face that he did. He looked so done with everything at that moment.

Oh…my god. Really?! How have I seen that episode like six times and missed the innuendo in that!?

“Just a second, this is interesting. Steinadlers seem to be involved with the military. Like, heroic, noble… Apparently with very large… sausages? I don’t think I’m translating that correctly.”
 – Monroe in “Three Coins in a Fuchsbau”

Aunt Marie.

Why did they have to cancel the show? There was so much to be done.

I know right!?

I still want to know how Grimm powers are passed on, and whether the Wesen council ever rebuilt itself, and whether Kelly actually has powers, and what the triplets are like, and whether Eve ever makes her way back to Juliette and learns to forgive herself, and the history of Grimms! Like Jesus H. Christ tell me about the FIRST GRIMM! Let some case come back to haunt the Burkhardts so that we can get young Marie and Kelly Sr. flashbacks! Let some of the damn one-offs that are so beloved come back and dig deeper into their There was SO much more story to be told. So much more of the world to discover. Six seasons was actually kind of amazing for such a niche show but it still was not enough!

THERE NEEDS TO BE A SEASON 7 OF GRIMM

LISTEN. I agree with you. I agree so hard, in fact, that for NaNoWriMo this year I wrote 50,000 words of a Grimm season 7 fanfiction. I’m working on finishing it up, editing it, and filling in some plotholes. Once I do I’ll post it on AO3 and link it here. In the meantime, if anyone has any good Grimm post-finale fic recs, feel free to reblog/reply and add them!