I love Grimm but seeing n’adalind makes me mad. She raped him for heaven’s sake. It’s like everyone forgot all the bad things she’s done. Also I did not expect the two deaths in the latest episode. I’m so sad right now.

I’m devastated by those two deaths. They seemed so unnecessary, and so incredibly violent. I mean, Grimm is actually a pretty dark, violent, gory show sometimes…but hardly ever is that kind of horror visited directly upon the main cast, and never in a way that’s permanently fatal. So that they killed two people was a massive shock on its own…never mind the senseless, heinously violent way it happened…in particular with Hank, which I don’t understand. Wu’s death was horrific and sad but it wasn’t over-the-top on the gore. Why did Hank’s have to be that way?

I’ve also never been on board with Nadalind for the exact reasons you mention, especially because the way they wrote it was so rushed and failed to show beforehand that Adalind had changed or articulate whether or not Adalind is responsible for the things she did while she was a hexenbiest. They kind of did it later, but not in a way that was definitive or consistent enough to absolve her completely. Never mind that no amount of absolving would have changed the effect her actions had on Nick.

Basically I wouldn’t have been happy with it no matter how they wrote it, but the way they chose to go about it was especially bad because it just…never rang true to me. The only way I can make it work in my head is that it’s another side-effect of the twinning spell Adalind performed on herself, Juliette, and Nick in season 3.

That being said, I don’t think anyone has forgotten what Adalind has done…least of all Adalind. There have been several moments when others on the team and Adadlind herself have acknowledged her fucked up past. Eve threatened her last season because she was afraid Adalind would cause Nick more pain. Rosalee and Monroe have both shown some wariness toward Adalind in season 5, however kind they are to her otherwise.

And Adalind has spoken of redemption. She knows what she did. She’s sorry for what she did. That doesn’t undo it, excuse it, or make it okay…but I think she’s always thinking about the mistakes she’s made and looking for ways to do good instead anyway. And as I’ve said before, I’m really glad she got to that point…I just wish the writers had done it without all of this romantic nonsense between her and Nick.

They did not have to become romantically involved just because they had a child together, especially considering that the circumstances of Kelly’s conception were non-consensual and traumatic. They could have raised the kid together and found their way to an amicable co-parenting relationship without any of that, and in my opinion they should have. Based on the shoddy writing, I’ll always believe on some level that the writers were just conceding to the demands of Nadalind fans, rather than writing something because there was romantic chemistry or because it worked, story-wise.

Sometimes I don’t see where the writers are going with something on first watch, but I always manage to get there if I think about it a little harder. I even think I understand, now, what led to Sean’s descent into villainy in season 5. With this, though, I’ve thought about it from every angle I can and that’s all I can come up with. And in my opinion it will always be the one glaring, irredeemable flaw in an otherwise solid show.

I don’t like A’dalind very much, but I appreciate the fact that she apologized to Eve/Juliette in episode 5.

It was a nice gesture, but what’s finally made me believe her compressed redemption arc is how she’s treated Eve since then. I’ll never ship her with Nick or be okay with what terrible writing that was, but she’s been sincerely kind and helpful to Eve this entire season, and was even willing to risk her own life to go save Eve from the Mirror World.

That’s a long way from the Adalind we knew in season one, and I’m glad she got there. I’m just sorry the writers didn’t give us that starting two seasons ago, instead of rushing an unnecessary romance arc and putting her character on the back burner for so long.

I know she’s a little young for that but I can totally see Diana as a Silverhardt shipper. I mean she wants her parents back together so she doesn’t want her mum to be with Nick. Also she cares for Eve and knows that Eve is in pain cause Nick is not her boyfriend anymore. All in all it’s pointless but it’s kind of sweet.

I can definitely imagine Diana wanting Juliette and Nick to be together because maybe then her parents will be together, especially earlier on.

I don’t think she fully accepted it until “Blind Love,” tbh. When she tells her father, “I guess we all love each other,” I think that was her coming to understand and accept that her mother and father aren’t going to be together, and that that’s okay, because they both love her and she loves them, and Nick loves her brother who she also loves…and that’s enough for her.

One of the coolest things about her character is how quietly inquisitive she is. She’s very realistic as a child in that way: she doesn’t just, she just wonders, and asks questions, and shifts her worldview to accommodate new information. Adults go kicking and screaming when you try to change their minds about something, but all you have to do for most little kids is take the time to explain it the right way.

And that’s very much Diana. When an adult takes the time to explain something to her, as long as that something makes sense she’ll accept it and move on without a lot of fuss. And I think that’s what she’s done with her parents, although I’m sure a part of her still wishes that she could see both of them all the time and see them happy together.

Congratulations, Grimm. You officially fucked it up. There’s no way in hell I can forgive this show for killing it’s two (it’s ONLY important) characters of colour. This show was, diversity-wise, not great from the beginning but this… this is unacceptable. If you go ahead and kill the rest of Team Grimm as well, I might be a little less mad, but I really don’t see that happening. Congratulations, Grimm, I officially hate this episode.

Agreed, agreed, AGREED. I’m so angry. And sad. Mostly angry.

Like…couldn’t they have mixed it up and had them LIVE for a damn change? It doesn’t help that that scene was…well, it wasn’t great. I got what they were going for, but it made no sense to me. I get why Hank couldn’t be saved by the Stick, but why does Nick just sit there and stare at Wu while he’s still alive and could be healed instead of HEALING HIM!?

As cheesy as I think Total Rewinds are, I want a fucking Total Rewind ending to Grimm now because it’s the only way to fix this first and foremost, as well as a few other things they’ve left broken here at the end.

Hi I’ve just watched the episode where Juliette/Eve is at the hospital and I got so many Nickette feels! It’s pretty obvious that he still feels something for her.

Isn’t it, though? Nick never really dealt with their relationship or how it ended, and it’s painfully obvious that he has some unresolved feelings there. Even as far along in the season as the last two episodes, it’s clear that whatever’s happening now, a part of him still loves Juliette. And probably always will.

I actually knew someone who was in the pilot episode of Grimm. (the girl’s grandfather-the person playing him was mark Lewis, a storyteller who sadly Is dead now.)

That’s so cool that you knew him! And so sad that he’s passed.


From his Wikipedia page:

Mark Lewis (February 16, 1954 – December 7, 2014) was an American storyteller, actor, and teacher.

He began his storytelling career while a student at John Muir High School in Pasadena, California, winning regional drama competitions with his telling of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” and “Jabberwocky”, two pieces that became staples of his professional storytelling repertory. In 1971, he formed a performing partnership with singer-songwriter-actor Craig Coulter, and together, as Coulter & Lewis, they developed an enthusiastic local following performing songs (some original), poetry, children’s stories, and skits.

Lewis was part of the Renaissance Pleasure Faires that took place in Agoura, California in the 1970s – 1990s, serving first as the black-hooded and silent Executioner. He later took on speaking roles that allowed him to share his storytelling gifts with Faire-goers. Lewis received two Emmy Awards for his show “Word Pictures” on WTTW in Chicago, and he had a syndicated radio show.

He was a featured performer on the TV series Northern Exposure on CBS and Leverage on TNT (as Santa/Jack in "The Ho Ho Ho Job”, 2012). Lewis was an illustrator and he wrote four books, among them Kaliban’s Christmas: A Special Tale of Magic (Puffin Books, 1987), The Secret of the Quilt (Book One of The Counterpane Collection) with illustrations by Laura Kelly (Laughing Moon Productions, 1992), and the ibook Anna and the Sun (Lulu.com, 2011).

I know it’s a serious trailer and all (and it’s definitely sad, I expected some deaths but actually not what we’ve seen so far) but the way Adalind/Claire yells “run!” in that promo sounds so weird that it almost amuses me? I don’t know! I do wonder if that’s purposeful misdirection though seeing as it implies that Adalind will get killed and while I think her dying to protect her children does seem ic I’m not sure if they’d show it in the trailer?

Yeah…I noticed the editing is a little weird there. It seems like it’s supposed to be almost a slow motion effect? Or like the scream has been isolated from all the other sound? But it’s hard to tell, there’s so little context to go by and there’s so much going on.

It looks as though Zerstorer is standing behind her and about to run her through with the staff, and she’s making it her last act to warn everyone that he’s coming.

But again. It’s hard to tell. A couple of years ago the promo editors had me convinced Nick was going to shoot Juliette in their living room, so…trailers lie and anything can happen.

I’m so torn between wanting to watch the finale and be surprised and wanting to wait and make sure Juliette’s and Nick are okay before I finish.

I don’t know what to tell you…I mean on the one hand I want to scream “watch it watch it!” Because I’m excited. But on the other hand, I understand wanting to know what you’re getting into before you jump feet-first.

That being said, as of 6×11 they were in a pretty good place with each other. Not a romantic place, but they finally hashed some things out and a lot of pain and blame was put to bed.