I think if we had a season 7 or even just a full, 22-episode season 6, then it could go either way. But with so little time left and so much else going on, it doesn’t look good.
I’m not ready to give up on Silverhardt yet, either, and I never will be. I will be shipping them long after the show is over, no matter where the writers leave them.
Well, Anon, I have to disagree. First, I think there’s a lot more to Juliette/Eve’s character development this season than just her feelings for Nick. Second, I think it’s pretty clear that her feelings for Nick have been coming back since long before that. Really, I don’t think we have compelling evidence that they ever left.
The only times Eve showed emotion in season 5 were either in Nick’s presence or directly related to Nick. And there have been little glances and long, sad, searching stares going on all season long this year, and in last season’s finale. “Blind Love” was just the first time she verbally acknowledged it.
And I don’t think it’s ever “too late” to be sorry for what you’ve done or how things turned out, or to feel something or acknowledge your feelings. Simply feeling something or acknowledging she feels it doesn’t mean she’s actually planning to act on those feelings. In fact, I think she’s doing the exact opposite. She tried to distance herself from Nick by moving out of the bunker, her stated reason being that she needed her space and so did Nick and Adalind.
Even if she did decide to act on them…I mean it’s not like they’re completely one-sided. Nick has always acted weird around Eve. He’s never stopped looking for Juliette in her face. He’s always been ready to run to help her when she needed it.
And ever since it became clear that Juliette wasn’t completely gone at the end of season 5, things between them have shifted and Nick has been thinking a lot more–with literal flashbacks in case we weren’t quite getting it–about his life with Juliette and how much she means to him, and everything that happened between them. Which actually shows how much he’s grown as a person since the early seasons.
There was a time when Nick couldn’t allow himself to sit still and just be there for Juliette, he had to be out doing the Big Man Thing of trying to fix the problem (which is kind of how this whole hexenmess spiraled out of control in the first place). But now? He hears that Eve is hurt and he drops everything he’s doing and runs to her side, and just sits there by her bed, waiting. So she won’t be alone when she wakes up. He even forgets to call her Eve. In that moment she is Juliette to him, and she is hurt, and so he’s there.
So yeah. I don’t think Juliette/Eve is the only person whose feelings have “suddenly” come back (read: always been there and are finally being re-acknowledged).
Now, whether either of them was or is prepared to deal with those feelings further after everything that happened between them in season four–in which Juliette was not the only one at fault and Nick was not the only one hurt, I’d remind you–is a totally different story.
Not really, no. Adalind has never been at the center of things on Grimm. I mean…she’s been the cause of a lot, but she’s never been an integral member of Team Grimm necessarily. And the show is very much about Nick and his close-knit group of friends, so that has always made sense.
I mean, let’s look at Adalind over the seasons:
Season 1: Pops up every couple of episodes as Renard’s villainous secret agent. Her actions drive the lead up to the finale, but she only appears in eight episodes.
Season 2: Spends most of the season in Vienna. Returns to Portland long enough to gloat over Juliette’s comatose condition and get pregnant by Sean. She only appears in nine episodes.
Season 3: She appears much more in this season, in all but two episodes. However, her scenes are relatively brief and she is not in Portland for the majority of the season. Again, her storyline leads to the big finale, but it isn’t integrally tied to the rest of the team until she returns to Portland with Diana.
Season 4: She appears in 17 out of 22 episodes, and spends the first half of the season back in Vienna (her frequent flyer miles must be A M A Z I N G). She then spends the majority of the rest of the season with the Royals, trying to leverage her relationship with them to get Diana back somehow. She doesn’t team up with Nick and his friends until near the end of 4×19.
Season 5: This marks the first season where Adalind appears in every episode. She spends the majority of that time in the bunker with Nick, and is still not really a full member of Team Grimm. Whether because of their past with her or because she’s not interested or some other reason, Adalind isn’t along for most of their cases and isn’t included in key information…like the Stick of Destiny and what it does. She is separated from Nick and the team again in the penultimate episode.
Season 6: She has appeared in every episode so far except for “The Son Also Rises.” She spent the first episode separated from the team and most of the second episode doing what she could on her own to help them. She’s been included in the team’s activities more this season, but spends most of her time off-screen with Diana and Kelly.
So no…I don’t think it’s really that strange. In a way, it makes sense. In the past when we saw a lot of Adalind even though she was far away from Team Grimm, it was because her actions were building towards something that they were going to have to deal with. Now, she has pretty much everything she’s fought or searched for throughout the series: her powers and both of her children. Any revenge she wanted to mete out has been dealt, and far seeking more of it she seems to regret many of her past actions. The fact is…there isn’t an awful lot for Adalind to do on screen anymore, especially with four episodes left and whatever big bad is coming on its way.
Granted, I don’t necessarily like this state of affairs. Adalind was always so interesting as a villain, and now it seems like the writers just don’t know what to do with her. They rushed a redemption arc that didn’t make any sense and as a consequence rid Adalind of all the traits and conflict that made her interesting. The result is that we have less of her in the final season, and the few scenes we do have are relatively brief and don’t allow her to dominate the screen the way she did when she was bad.
That’s very true, but also somewhat to be expected, I think.
A show can’t just play the same note over and over, season after season. I mean, a police procedural can I guess, but even they tend to feature character development and overarching plots that change the show’s tone over time…and Grimm has never been a traditional police procedural.
The characters have grown and changed over the course of six seasons. More of the world has been revealed, and relationships have changed and changed again. Some things have gotten complicated. The show did go pretty dark last season, but the overall tone has always been, well…grim. Everything from the lighting to the music to the subject matter of the show has reinforced that from the beginning.
Still…I actually think this season feels more like the first season than anything else has. I felt seasons 2-4 were really soap opera-esque at times, and as much as I usually love the Grimm writers, some of the lines they wrote in seasons 3-4 couldn’t be pulled off by even this stellar cast of actors (I cringe every single time I watch Rosalee’s “she’s a freakin’ HEXENBIEST” outburst in season 4, like wow that was so over-the-top and forced and weird).
So yeah…Grimm has changed a lot. But in a way it’s also gone back to its roots this season, and I’m glad. It’s been one hell of a ride and I love seeing the writers pay tribute to that.
That is a long and complicated question…and I’m not sure I would call him evil, necessary. It’s just that his loyalties have changed drastically since season 4. Not always for the better, either.
And like a lot of fans, I’ve never been satisfied with the reasons for Sean’s seemingly sudden change in season 5. I can headcanon some stuff together for it, but IMO something as pivotal as a major character’s motivation behind a complete 180 on loyalties shouldn’t be left up to headcanon, or at least not entirely so.
My best guess is that when Diana was taken by the royals and that helicopter went down, Sean honestly didn’t know at first whether she’d even survived…and then he didn’t know where she was for several months. I think that affected him far more than we initially realized as an audience, because when I look back it was right after that when Sean started withdrawing from the team quite a bit.
Enter Black Claw, promising power and influence and protection…and then giving him his daughter back, alive and well. It was only after they gave Diana to him that Sean really got on board with their plans and seemed to drink the Kool-Aid.
So I think it was a combination of things that made Sean go bad, not least of which was a lot of unspoken resentment, fatherly grief, and Team Grimm’s tendency to do whatever they think will solve the problem of the moment without always considering the long-term consequences or collateral damage.
That being said, I do think you should catch up as long as long as you’re not triggered or deeply squicked out by Nadalind (there is a lot of it in seasons 5-6). Their scenes are more numerous than I would like, but they are mostly brief. And the show improved drastically in season 5 and has been as good as ever thus far in season 6.
I hope you’re enjoying your rewatch, Anon!
Like you, I’m glad we got six seasons and that the writers have had time to plan a good ending.
We’re a small and often scattered fandom indeed, but we all love this weird little show that could. I hope you enjoy these last four episodes with us! Feel free to drop in and let us know what you think about the ending. 🙂
Augh, another ask it’s taken WAY too long to answer, I’m so sorry.
But SAME. I love Diana as a character, she’s one of the best and most interesting superpowered child characters I’ve seen on television, and I’m honestly so tense whenever she’s in a scene waiting for how she will react or what she will do next because she’s not really good OR evil, she’s just a kid. And I think Adalind had it right on the money when she said Diana wanted her daddy to be a hero and save mommy.
But I do love how protective she is of her mom, and how she eliminates threats to her family. And I’m super happy about the whole “I guess we love each other” comment, because it kind of implies she’s added Nick to her family as well (although she would make him very sorry if he ever hurt her mom, of course).
This response is SO LATE I’m sorry!
But YOU WERE ALSO RIGHT. Juliette is definitely back and I swear we see more of her with every episode. Eve is still a part of her and I think it’s easier for her and for the team to keep referring to her as Eve, but she’s as Juliette as she’s ever been and I LOVE IT.
At this point, I honestly do not know.
On the one hand, the last couple of episodes have clearly shown that Juliette/Eve and Nick still have feelings for one another, and have even hinted that Adalind is aware of this.
On the other hand, there are only four episodes left in the show. Nadalind is established at this point, for better or for worse, while Silverhardt has for all intents and purposes had a year apart, and only just begun to acknowledge their feelings for one another still exist.
Then, too, the writers have hinted strongly that Nick will end up with one or the other by the end of the series. I don’t like to think they would build the Silverhardt feelings back up just for it to come to nothing, but I also don’t know how they would dissolve the Nadalind relationship and then switch to Silverhardt being back on and at an endgame sort of place in just four more episodes.
So although I’m not happy about it, I’m concerned that Nadalind will indeed be endgame. Either that, or the show will end with neither relationship on.
This is a super old ask and I’m so sorry for the delay in answering.
A lot of people feel like you do, myself included. The good news is that Juliette is definitely back, even if she still chooses to go by Eve, and her feelings for Nick are very clearly present and are not being ignored by the writers. You’re right that Eve is still a part of her, but I think they’ve come a long way toward repairing her relationship with the entire team. All we can hope is that this continues for the last four episodes!
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