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do you really think that speech was meant to kill silverhardt? i think it can go either way. either that talk completely kills any hope for them or it opens the door for more talks and an understanding of what happened to each of them and how they’re both different now but that doesn’t mean they can’t start over and try to heal with each other. i’m not ready to give up on silverhardt yet. i’m not ready to give up on this beautiful, horribly painful ship.

I think if we had a season 7 or even just a full, 22-episode season 6, then it could go either way. But with so little time left and so much else going on, it doesn’t look good.

I’m not ready to give up on Silverhardt yet, either, and I never will be. I will be shipping them long after the show is over, no matter where the writers leave them.

I’m starting to think Skull face is some kind of wesen god or the devil. And that portal seems like purgatory. Julieve and nick cheated death and they were not innocent when they did. So this Thing wants the soul that was coming it’s way. The same can’t go for diana, but she is this force that is extremely powerful, unpredictable and uncontrollable. Either skull face wants to set the world right or it wants to use her for dominion over earth. But then monroe was also cured, y can’t he see it?

That’s certainly a possibility, although you’re right, this Wesen god/devil’s concept of innocence would have to be pretty in-the-moment or subjective because we all know Monroe has some messed up shit in his past.

I personally think the other world is some kind of primeval universe where Wesen originated, perhaps in a less human form than we know them in our world in the show.

Wesen as we know them in the world of Grimm are humans with a hidden side that resembles an animal or folk creature–wolves, foxes, goats, sheep, rabbits, rats, snakes, mice, birds, merpeople, dragons, etc.

But what if they descended from beings that were less human, who had nothing to hide that side behind? Or what if the Wesen nature is more like a symbiotic relationship, virus, or possession? We’ve only seen a few examples to support this–hexenbiests, grausen, and lycanthropes–but that doesn’t mean there aren’t others. I mean, the methods of removing or reinstating hexenbiest powers are pretty specific, as are the conditions for creating a pure lycanthrope…which is not a Wesen as the term is usually understood, but has a lot of similarities with regards to dual nature, increased powers, etc.

Maybe it’s the same for other Wesen, and those conditions have just never happened because they are so specific and there have never been groups of Wesen, humans, and Grimms who were quite as cozy and wildly experimental as our beloved Team Grimm. I mean, the rest of the Wesen world seems to be pretty dedicated to maintaining the status quo, believing whatever’s easiest, and not asking a lot of hard questions (just look at how ready even Rosalee was to allow the Wesen council to murder a child just because he had an illness!).

But I digress. The point is…what if all of the strangeness the team has encountered–Grimms, Wesen, magic, mystical illnesses, etc–are all originally from this parallel world? What if Wesen nature roams this world freely in its purest form, without any human side?

I mean, going back–as I seem to be doing with increasing frequency–to all the similarities between this show and David Greenwalt’s other baby, Angel, what if this is similar to demonic realms in the Buffyverse? What if it’s like when they went to Pylea in Angel?

And if that’s the case, how will that affect someone like Nick who goes there, or someone like Juliette/Eve? If she woges, will her Wesen side be stronger and take over completely? Or will her Wesen side be significantly weaker by comparison in a place of such strong magic, and leave her unable to completely woge and protect herself and/or Nick?

Will Nick’s Grimm powers be stronger in this place, or weaker? Could he possibly have a more pronounced “Grimm form” that we’ve never seen before, and that we’ll get to see now?

Actually…what if Grimm, like Wesen, are originally from this other world? What if that skull face they keep seeing in the mirror is the purest form of a Grimm?

That was a heartbreaking episode, but it does bring up an interesting point that I had never thought about. Personal ethics vs the protection of all and how hard it must be for Wessen that have a history of Alzheimer’s of dementia.

The episode was indeed heartbreaking. It was also a very uncomfortable episode for me to watch for a lot of reasons. I mean…on the one hand Rosalee and Monroe truly care for each other and were following each other’s wishes when they made that commitment to one another.

On the other hand, one of the problems with euthanasia practices is that elderly and/or disabled people, especially those with mental illness, dementia, or other such problems are especially vulnerable to abuse of any kind. There’s an ugly tendency in Western culture–and other cultures, I’m sure–to devalue human beings who don’t meet a certain standard of health or “productivity” as burdens or even dangers to society who are unworthy of life.

There are very real concerns among the disabled and mentally ill communities about euthanasia, precisely because of those attitudes and because of the risk of disabled people being euthanized against their will or pressured into choosing euthanasia by family members who don’t want the burden of caring for them.

So watching an episode that validated that narrative by depicting elderly victims of dementia as literal murderers was extremely disturbing to me. The episode treated euthanasia completely uncritically, as necessary and merciful without any caveats, and even dismissed criticism of it as outsiders just “not understanding” a community’s needs.

That was horrifying. And that horror undercut the episode’s emotional punch for me, because the whole time I was sitting there as a chronically ill person thinking about the message it was sending about people like me, whether intentionally or not.

Just a curious person here, how do you feel about how Juliette/Eve`s character developed over the past couple episodes? I feel like since after “Blind Love” her feelings for Nick have been coming back. It just feels weird having her suddenly feel something for Nick again after all that`s happened between them, and what she`s done. Personally, I think Juliette`s coming in sort of late with the whole “I love Nick again” thing, now that Adalind`s in the picture. Like sorry Juliette 😒 bit too late.

Well, Anon, I have to disagree. First, I think there’s a lot more to Juliette/Eve’s character development this season than just her feelings for Nick. Second, I think it’s pretty clear that her feelings for Nick have been coming back since long before that. Really, I don’t think we have compelling evidence that they ever left.

The only times Eve showed emotion in season 5 were either in Nick’s presence or directly related to Nick. And there have been little glances and long, sad, searching stares going on all season long this year, and in last season’s finale. “Blind Love” was just the first time she verbally acknowledged it.

And I don’t think it’s ever “too late” to be sorry for what you’ve done or how things turned out, or to feel something or acknowledge your feelings. Simply feeling something or acknowledging she feels it doesn’t mean she’s actually planning to act on those feelings. In fact, I think she’s doing the exact opposite. She tried to distance herself from Nick by moving out of the bunker, her stated reason being that she needed her space and so did Nick and Adalind.

Even if she did decide to act on them…I mean it’s not like they’re completely one-sided. Nick has always acted weird around Eve. He’s never stopped looking for Juliette in her face. He’s always been ready to run to help her when she needed it.

And ever since it became clear that Juliette wasn’t completely gone at the end of season 5, things between them have shifted and Nick has been thinking a lot more–with literal flashbacks in case we weren’t quite getting it–about his life with Juliette and how much she means to him, and everything that happened between them. Which actually shows how much he’s grown as a person since the early seasons.

There was a time when Nick couldn’t allow himself to sit still and just be there for Juliette, he had to be out doing the Big Man Thing of trying to fix the problem (which is kind of how this whole hexenmess spiraled out of control in the first place). But now? He hears that Eve is hurt and he drops everything he’s doing and runs to her side, and just sits there by her bed, waiting. So she won’t be alone when she wakes up. He even forgets to call her Eve. In that moment she is Juliette to him, and she is hurt, and so he’s there.

So yeah. I don’t think Juliette/Eve is the only person whose feelings have “suddenly” come back (read: always been there and are finally being re-acknowledged).

Now, whether either of them was or is prepared to deal with those feelings further after everything that happened between them in season four–in which Juliette was not the only one at fault and Nick was not the only one hurt, I’d remind you–is a totally different story.

Do you think it’s strange that Adalind has been on the sidelines almost all season?

Not really, no. Adalind has never been at the center of things on Grimm. I mean…she’s been the cause of a lot, but she’s never been an integral member of Team Grimm necessarily. And the show is very much about Nick and his close-knit group of friends, so that has always made sense.

I mean, let’s look at Adalind over the seasons:

Season 1: Pops up every couple of episodes as Renard’s villainous secret agent. Her actions drive the lead up to the finale, but she only appears in eight episodes.

Season 2: Spends most of the season in Vienna. Returns to Portland long enough to gloat over Juliette’s comatose condition and get pregnant by Sean. She only appears in nine episodes.

Season 3: She appears much more in this season, in all but two episodes. However, her scenes are relatively brief and she is not in Portland for the majority of the season. Again, her storyline leads to the big finale, but it isn’t integrally tied to the rest of the team until she returns to Portland with Diana.

Season 4: She appears in 17 out of 22 episodes, and spends the first half of the season back in Vienna (her frequent flyer miles must be A M A Z I N G). She then spends the majority of the rest of the season with the Royals, trying to leverage her relationship with them to get Diana back somehow. She doesn’t team up with Nick and his friends until near the end of 4×19.

Season 5: This marks the first season where Adalind appears in every episode. She spends the majority of that time in the bunker with Nick, and is still not really a full member of Team Grimm. Whether because of their past with her or because she’s not interested or some other reason, Adalind isn’t along for most of their cases and isn’t included in key information…like the Stick of Destiny and what it does. She is separated from Nick and the team again in the penultimate episode.

Season 6: She has appeared in every episode so far except for “The Son Also Rises.” She spent the first episode separated from the team and most of the second episode doing what she could on her own to help them. She’s been included in the team’s activities more this season, but spends most of her time off-screen with Diana and Kelly.

So no…I don’t think it’s really that strange. In a way, it makes sense. In the past when we saw a lot of Adalind even though she was far away from Team Grimm, it was because her actions were building towards something that they were going to have to deal with. Now, she has pretty much everything she’s fought or searched for throughout the series: her powers and both of her children. Any revenge she wanted to mete out has been dealt, and far seeking more of it she seems to regret many of her past actions. The fact is…there isn’t an awful lot for Adalind to do on screen anymore, especially with four episodes left and whatever big bad is coming on its way.

Granted, I don’t necessarily like this state of affairs. Adalind was always so interesting as a villain, and now it seems like the writers just don’t know what to do with her. They rushed a redemption arc that didn’t make any sense and as a consequence rid Adalind of all the traits and conflict that made her interesting. The result is that we have less of her in the final season, and the few scenes we do have are relatively brief and don’t allow her to dominate the screen the way she did when she was bad.

it feels like grimm went too dark last season and never recovered. this show doesnt feel the same as it did in the early seasons

That’s very true, but also somewhat to be expected, I think.

A show can’t just play the same note over and over, season after season. I mean, a police procedural can I guess, but even they tend to feature character development and overarching plots that change the show’s tone over time…and Grimm has never been a traditional police procedural.

The characters have grown and changed over the course of six seasons. More of the world has been revealed, and relationships have changed and changed again. Some things have gotten complicated. The show did go pretty dark last season, but the overall tone has always been, well…grim. Everything from the lighting to the music to the subject matter of the show has reinforced that from the beginning.

Still…I actually think this season feels more like the first season than anything else has. I felt seasons 2-4 were really soap opera-esque at times, and as much as I usually love the Grimm writers, some of the lines they wrote in seasons 3-4 couldn’t be pulled off by even this stellar cast of actors (I cringe every single time I watch Rosalee’s “she’s a freakin’ HEXENBIEST” outburst in season 4, like wow that was so over-the-top and forced and weird).

So yeah…Grimm has changed a lot. But in a way it’s also gone back to its roots this season, and I’m glad. It’s been one hell of a ride and I love seeing the writers pay tribute to that.

Why is Sean evil?? I’ve been in and out of Grimm since like season 4 and Sean was one of my faves what is happening??? (Also, do you think I should catch up or just follow the show via fandom I can’t decide..)

That is a long and complicated question…and I’m not sure I would call him evil, necessary. It’s just that his loyalties have changed drastically since season 4. Not always for the better, either.

And like a lot of fans, I’ve never been satisfied with the reasons for Sean’s seemingly sudden change in season 5. I can headcanon some stuff together for it, but IMO something as pivotal as a major character’s motivation behind a complete 180 on loyalties shouldn’t be left up to headcanon, or at least not entirely so.

My best guess is that when Diana was taken by the royals and that helicopter went down, Sean honestly didn’t know at first whether she’d even survived…and then he didn’t know where she was for several months. I think that affected him far more than we initially realized as an audience, because when I look back it was right after that when Sean started withdrawing from the team quite a bit.

Enter Black Claw, promising power and influence and protection…and then giving him his daughter back, alive and well. It was only after they gave Diana to him that Sean really got on board with their plans and seemed to drink the Kool-Aid.

So I think it was a combination of things that made Sean go bad, not least of which was a lot of unspoken resentment, fatherly grief, and Team Grimm’s tendency to do whatever they think will solve the problem of the moment without always considering the long-term consequences or collateral damage.

That being said, I do think you should catch up as long as long as you’re not triggered or deeply squicked out by Nadalind (there is a lot of it in seasons 5-6). Their scenes are more numerous than I would like, but they are mostly brief. And the show improved drastically in season 5 and has been as good as ever thus far in season 6.

I’m rematching Grimm from the start and!! Oh my god I love this series, the characters are amazing and even though it breaks my heart that we’re this close to the end I can’t help but feel thankful about six amazing seasons we’ve been given :) I love the cast and I just, it makes me feel safe and good and excited. Thank you for this blog, this is such a small fandom :)

I hope you’re enjoying your rewatch, Anon!

Like you, I’m glad we got six seasons and that the writers have had time to plan a good ending.

We’re a small and often scattered fandom indeed, but we all love this weird little show that could. I hope you enjoy these last four episodes with us! Feel free to drop in and let us know what you think about the ending. 🙂