Ok this question is just in the line of my another colleage anon, about have Bitsie and some GrimmWriters blocking to their fans . Ok i don´t have instagram, and i rarely interact in twitter and never in facebook, i don´t like make that. But i think that is quite inadvisable to declare war on your audience don´t you think? some ppl were blocked basically for say that Bitsie ” is not a good actress” since when a Show is not opened to all type of reviews? a show is made for that precisely not?

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

Well no, anon, I don’t think. I don’t think blocking rude people is even remotely comparable to “declaring war on your audience,” for one thing. For another, as I said in my previous post, I have never once seen a Grimm fan get blocked for respectful criticism, questions, and/or discussion.

Now assuming any of the claims of blocking being made are true–seeing as no one has bothered to provide any source for these accusations–showing up on someone’s personal instagram and saying they’re no good is not a “review.” It’s basically like knocking on someone’s front door and being like “you suck.” And the kind of comment you reference here is way at the lower end of the kind of bullshit Bitsie Tulloch gets daily on her instagram account, so it’s not even that relevant an example.

There’s no good reason for that kind of comment. It’s plain and simple meanness with no other purpose. People who post that kind of thing aren’t improving the show, they’re definitely not making the cast, crew, and writers want to interact with fans or listen to them more, and they’re not improving anyone’s performance. It’s useless, unnecessary rudeness, and exactly the kind of comment that should get people blocked.

Now, this is the last thing I’m going to say about this topic, although if other admins want to chime in they’re welcome to:

I’ve had a few fan experiences–in different fandoms, and one as recently as last night–over the years, and there are always fans in every fandom who have weird ideas about what they’re owed for watching, or listening, or reading, or buying. Frankly, it’s embarrassing and I’m tired of it. It’s a large part of the reason I typically opt NOT to meet or interact with the people who create the things I love even when the opportunity presents itself: I don’t want to be grouped in their minds with the kind of bratty, petty people who assume they’re owed more just for liking something.

So I feel pretty strongly that audience members who get all up in arms about what the creators owe their fans need to remember two things:

  1. The people who make our entertainment don’t owe us a goddamn thing, interaction-wise. They make a thing, we support it, they keep making the thing…and that’s it. That’s all they owe. The fact that they interact with us beyond the product they make is not an obligation, but a gift. It’s something they choose to do. And if they choose to stop interacting with certain people who take advantage of that to be needlessly rude, they have every right to do so.
  2. These are actual living, breathing people and those people have just as much right to their feelings as anyone else. If they don’t want to deal with negativity in their online spaces, especially the kind that’s pure vitriol and serves no actual purpose, then they don’t have to. And that doesn’t make them bad at their jobs or interfere with the “purpose” of their show.

Hi Anon, Admin Siobhan here.

You probably didn’t know this, but I’m an actor.

And as an actor, I will tell you where reviews go.

In the paper. On a blog/website.

Nowhere else. 

You do not EVER wander on to an actor’s/writer’s/creator’s social media and leave them ‘reviews’. Those are not reviews. Those are horrible crappy comments, given by horrible, crappy people who think they are entitled to tell a creator anything they like so long as they phrase it as a critique/review.

Are you allowed to air your opinions about Bitsie’s acting publicly? Of course you are. But those opinions go on YOUR social media, not hers. 

What these people are doing is not ‘reviews’. It’s bullying, plain and simple. We’re told as actors to actively ignore, and yes, BLOCK people like this because if these people’s reviews were worth anything they’d have free tickets/early showing and a byline in the paper.

And not one of these people have either of those, just this misguided notion that actors aren’t real people, and every single opinion you have about one of us is fair game to scream it in our faces, virtually or otherwise.

How would these people like it if hundreds of people flooded their social media with comments about how terrible they are at their jobs, deserved or otherwise?

And while we’re at it, most of the comments about Bitsie aren’t even about her acting, they’re about her looks, which is another level of horrible. 

The level of entitlement that these fans are having not only to say these horrible things to another human being and think they’re justified in doing that, but to then complain about being blocked is unreal.

And if you ever begin to think any of this is justified, just think about who exactly is getting the lion’s share of it.

It’s not David. It’s Bitsie. The level of misogyny I see in these comments is frankly, awful.

TL;DR, Not everyone needs YOUR opinion on their job performance. Reviews belong in the paper, most of this stuff aimed at Bitsie is misogynistic, as a fan you are entitled to precisely nothing. Poor Bitsie, if you’re reading this you’re wonderful and pretty and don’t deserve this crap.

Ok this question is just in the line of my another colleage anon, about have Bitsie and some GrimmWriters blocking to their fans . Ok i don´t have instagram, and i rarely interact in twitter and never in facebook, i don´t like make that. But i think that is quite inadvisable to declare war on your audience don´t you think? some ppl were blocked basically for say that Bitsie ” is not a good actress” since when a Show is not opened to all type of reviews? a show is made for that precisely not?

Well no, anon, I don’t think. I don’t think blocking rude people is even remotely comparable to “declaring war on your audience,” for one thing. For another, as I said in my previous post, I have never once seen a Grimm fan get blocked for respectful criticism, questions, and/or discussion.

Now assuming any of the claims of blocking being made are true–seeing as no one has bothered to provide any source for these accusations–showing up on someone’s personal instagram and saying they’re no good is not a “review.” It’s basically like knocking on someone’s front door and being like “you suck.” And the kind of comment you reference here is way at the lower end of the kind of bullshit Bitsie Tulloch gets daily on her instagram account, so it’s not even that relevant an example.

There’s no good reason for that kind of comment. It’s plain and simple meanness with no other purpose. People who post that kind of thing aren’t improving the show, they’re definitely not making the cast, crew, and writers want to interact with fans or listen to them more, and they’re not improving anyone’s performance. It’s useless, unnecessary rudeness, and exactly the kind of comment that should get people blocked.

Now, this is the last thing I’m going to say about this topic, although if other admins want to chime in they’re welcome to:

I’ve had a few fan experiences–in different fandoms, and one as recently as last night–over the years, and there are always fans in every fandom who have weird ideas about what they’re owed for watching, or listening, or reading, or buying. Frankly, it’s embarrassing and I’m tired of it. It’s a large part of the reason I typically opt NOT to meet or interact with the people who create the things I love even when the opportunity presents itself: I don’t want to be grouped in their minds with the kind of bratty, petty people who assume they’re owed more just for liking something.

So I feel pretty strongly that audience members who get all up in arms about what the creators owe their fans need to remember two things:

  1. The people who make our entertainment don’t owe us a goddamn thing, interaction-wise. They make a thing, we support it, they keep making the thing…and that’s it. That’s all they owe. The fact that they interact with us beyond the product they make is not an obligation, but a gift. It’s something they choose to do. And if they choose to stop interacting with certain people who take advantage of that to be needlessly rude, they have every right to do so.
  2. These are actual living, breathing people and those people have just as much right to their feelings as anyone else. If they don’t want to deal with negativity in their online spaces, especially the kind that’s pure vitriol and serves no actual purpose, then they don’t have to. And that doesn’t make them bad at their jobs or interfere with the “purpose” of their show.

Is is true that Bitsie and the Grimm social media accounts have started blocking people and deleting comments?

I have no idea whether this is true or not, but let me just say that having followed Bitsie on instagram for a while, if she did start blocking some of the incredibly rude people who post on her social media I would not blame her one tiny bit. And the same goes for the Grimm social media and the Grimm writers.

I love the Grimm cast, crew, and writers. They haven’t always made narrative decisions I agree with, but they have always had an amazing amount of openness, interaction, and dialogue with their fanbase. I–and other admins on this blog–have been very openly critical of some of their choices in the show’s direction in the past, and I’ve never been blocked. Nor, to my knowledge, has any other admin here.

In fact, the people who make Grimm have been one of the most giving toward fandom I’ve seen, surpassed only by the cast of Supernatural in the sheer amount of sharing they do with the fanbase. Even though certain members of this fanbase have occasionally crossed the line, particularly when it comes to sending Bitsie hateful messages.

They don’t owe us that level of interaction, and there are occasionally good reasons to block fans. So if it’s true that the Grimm social media accounts and/or Bitsie have begun blocking people and deleting their comments, they probably had a very good reason and, given what I’ve seen directed toward Bitsie in particular, it’s about damn time.

Twitter Thursday – S05E17 Inugami and S05E18 Good to the Bone

Each Thursday we’re rounding up the best cast/crew live-tweets from the previous week’s new episode of Grimm! Here’s the roundup from S05xE17 Inugami and S05E18 Good to the Bone.

Inugami

Apparently we’re not the only ones who think Nick needs to process what’s been going on…

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I was expecting puns… I was not disappointed.

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Bitsie shared this great behind the scenes photo of her and David in the rain on set

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We agree, Claire. We agree.

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Good to the Bone

The Grimm Writers showed us the Vulture that the Barbatus Ossifrage is based on

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My exact reaction was far from this…

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Twitter Thursday – S05E16 The Believer

Each Thursday we’re rounding up the best cast/crew live-tweets from the previous week’s new episode of Grimm! Here’s the roundup from S05xE16 The Believer.

This image of Bitsie’s face on Sasha’s body still kinda disturbs me…

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Sasah Roiz… actually tweeted???

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Us too, Bree. Us too.

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I was dying during this scene as well, Claire

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This pun is… beautiful.

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Twitter Thursday – S05E09 Star-Crossed

Each Thursday we’re rounding up the best cast/crew live-tweets from the previous week’s new episode of Grimm! Here’s the round up from S05xE09 Star-Crossed.

David started out the night by giving us all heart attacks (and he actually took the calls? While on set? There’s photo evidence?)

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You know what, Grimm Writers, that is something all three of us have in common

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I honestly imagined this as the scene happened, no lie

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Bitsie came up with yet another amazing ship name

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Claire perfectly summed up this ep’s Eve

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Twitter Thursday – S05E08 A Reptile Dysfunction

Each Thursday we’re rounding up the best cast/crew live-tweets from the previous week’s new episode of Grimm! Here’s the round up from S05xE08 A Reptile Dysfunction. I am honestly disappointed that I couldn’t find any weird puns regarding the title of this episode, but we did still get a few good tweets.

Todd Milliner, I don’t not agree with this tweet

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Bitsie Tulloch gave us a peek BTS

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Bree Turner explained why the cast was sorta MIA this week

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Michael Golamco gave some A+ fishing advice

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And the Grimm Writers put a voice to an experience all writers understand

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istanfortoadie:

Bitsie Tulloch is such an amazing actress! I love that we can so distinctly tell the difference between Eve, Juliette and Hexenbiest!Juliette. You don’t see anything that could give you the impression that it is the same character and that she can just sit there, not say a word and give such a powerful performance…Bitsie is just a phenomenal actress.