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I’m the anon who dislikes Juliette (thanks for not hating me!) I agree about the pushing us to hate her and about Nick needing some sense of normalcy. About him being better off without her though maybe he wouldn’t have been at the start of the season (putting aside personal opinion, that would’ve ruined him) or at any other point but at the end of the season with the writers pushing her so hard in that direction and all she did, I think he’s better off not being with someone who caused him pain

I hear you, anon. A person who hurts you repeatedly and takes pleasure in it is not a person you want to stay in a relationship with. And although I think the nature of human interactions is that we inevitably cause each other pain at times, I do think that if Juliette survives, Nick might forgive her for the things she did but they could never be the way they were again, even if they actually talked everything out and both admitted the places they were at fault and the places they weren’t.

One could also argue it the other way, though: Juliette would have been better off without Nick. She would have been better off not being with someone who lied to her, repeatedly put her life in danger, dismissed her emotions whenever they weren’t convenient for him, and caused her a lot of physical harm as well as emotional pain for several years.

Their relationship was very cute at times, but at others it was one-sided and extremely unhealthy, since the very first season. Nick’s greatest flaw is his self-absorption and avoidance, while Juliette’s is/was that if she loved someone, she would be too accommodating of their wants and needs, to the point of ignoring her own. It was a toxic combination that would have torn them apart eventually, in my opinion. Her transformation and all that followed just hastened things along.

I’m still not over the fact that Juliette burned down Nick’s aunts trailer, I mean that’s his whole family history and all he has left of his aunt. It still hurts me (mainly cause of all of those books that went up in flames).

Believe me, the sight of all those books going up in flames hurt me too…but then I started to think about it a little more. Yeah, it’s the Grimms’ history…but a lot of it is a history of remorseless, unforgiving brutality and ruthless murder.

The Grimms are not a long line of people like Nick, remember. They weren’t feared because they were reasonable and compassionate. Even Nick has been shown at times to be horrified and disgusted by his ancestors’ actions.

So…on the one hand yes, Juliette burned down his trailer full of vital information but on the other, she didn’t by any means burn his family history. Nick’s family history is his memories of his aunt and his father and mother, most of which actually had nothing to do with the Wesen world and the Grimm legacy. 

There’s actually no reason whatsoever to think Nick had nothing of his family other than what was in that trailer. The “normal” things, like photo albums, cherished memories of the childhood he had with Marie? I doubt they were there. Why would they be? And why on earth would he value his family’s long history of blood and brutality over that?

Confession time: I never ever liked Juliet but I don’t think I full on hated her until the last bit of the last season. I think Nick is better off without her (no disrespect for Nickette shippers). Please don’t hate me!!

There’s nothing inherently wrong with disliking Juliette because you don’t connect with her character, or don’t think her arc is interesting, or don’t like her choices. My problem–as I’m sure you’ve seen if you follow my rants on FYNB–is with the misogyny behind some of the reasons people cite for disliking Juliette.

But I honestly think toward the end the writers were pushing us to hate her, only to try and pull an about-face and give us emotional whiplash at the end with Nick’s grief over her “death” (I’m still in denial). It worked for me, because I love Juliette, and it worked for some people who just hate to see Nick in pain…but I’m not sure it worked as well as the writers might have hoped for those who fully dove into hating her toward the end. Or maybe the writers just wanted us to hate her and weren’t expecting Bitsie and David to sell it as well as they did. I haven’t decided yet.

But the point is, there’s nothing inherently wrong with disliking a character. I of course disagree that Nick is better off without her, and I really worry what he’s going to do without her around to provide some sense of normalcy and stability in his life…and the lives of the rest of Team Grimm to boot. He wasn’t doing so great towards the end when she was transformed, so I can’t imagine how bad off he’ll be now if she’s actually dead.

But no. I don’t hate you, Nonny.

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Your posts about Bitsie’s Twitter are making me happier. I went into Juliette’s tag last night, and there were all these people being happy. So predictable, so unwelcome.

Ugh, I know. I took a good, long hiatus from even looking in the Grimm tag after that finale.

Bitsie is a gift from the gods, I adore her and she makes me so happy. Her twitter and instagram are full of so much cute and she’s got this wry, mischievous sense of humor about her character that I love.

Grimm Fans

sexytrekkie:

I was under the impression that the actress Bitsie asked to leave Grimm and they killed off her character because they didn’t know what else to do, because that is how NBC thinks. Was I told wrong?

As far as I have seen, there has been no official announcement on whether Juliette is staying dead in season 5. The writers and Bitsie herself have been doing a lot of teasing and trolling, but have also outright said they aren’t telling us for sure until the season 5 premiere. They want us guessing.

There was one TVLine interview that’s been quoted out of context a lot to make it sound like she’s gone for good, but if you actually read the whole interview, the creators are laughing, joking, and being evasive. When asked if they’re serious, Kouf replies cryptically that he’s as serious as he usually is.

Google “Grimm Juliette dies dead” (overkill much?) and read for yourself. Sorry for the lack of a direct link…mobile.

TL;DR: Believe nothing the writers tell you on hiatus because they troll.

My path with Juliette was a bit like a roller coaster, one minute i liked her and the next i couldn’t stand her, but the last few episodes of season 4 confirmed my dislike for her and i am glad she’s “dead” (although i think she’s not technically dead). If she does somehow survive/resurrects in season 5, i hope it’s the old juliette, and not hexenbiest juliette.

I mean…you’re entitled to your opinion, anon. I personally loved both Juliette and Jujubiest, and thought that both kind of got the shit end of the stick when it came to how the other people, in particular Nick, treated them. I hope she’s back in any form, and I hope the rest of Team Grimm will be written back into character soon.

This just freaking hurt so much and hoping she’s still alive cause Juliette’s been my fave since season 1. I just can’t see Trubel being able to do that so easily no matter what considering their relationship. But yeah, I might check in though it won’t be the same if Juliette is really gone. But if they made Nick/Adalind a couple just no, I would be so done. The message that would be sending would be disgusting.

Agreed…I think something is going on with Trubel that we don’t know about yet. There were hints all through “Cry Havoc” but there was so much else going on that I don’t think anyone, including us, had time to really process it all.

And agreed on Nick/Adalind. I would not be on board with that becoming canon at all.

Clever Girls and Mental Scarring

Hey there! I’m that anon who bet 5 internet cookies that Kelly was gonna bite it. I am currently sobbing as I eat them. But anyway!

Can we take a moment to discuss that skull the king saw in the copter window? I assumed Diana was making an illusion because the king seemed way too shocked for it to be a woge of some kind. If so, Diana knew the king was going to die. Do you think she knew the rebels were coming to get her? The only one who should have known where she was, was Momma Grimm, so did she pass on the news that she was heading to see Nick to the Resistance? Kelly’s always been a careful one, what with leaving her son for the majority of his life, so it makes sense that she had a backup plan.

Perhaps Kelly was trying to hit two birds with one stone by helping her son and help the Resistance at the same time?

Also: Oh GOD, Juliette and Trubel!

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Poor Trubel! They’d gotten so close and now the first thing she has to do when getting back to the  couple who gave her a brand new start is kill one of them! Are the writers just trying to see how many characters they can scar in one finale?!