I’m starting to really believe Nick and Juliette are endgame. She’s obviously still in love with him so he only has to wake up. I wonder if the stick went near Adalind if she would be fixed back to her normal self rather than this fakery going on. It was powerful magic that changed her and Juliette and it’s not fully undone yet. My heart broke when I saw her in the tunnels by herself under where he lives.

I feel like we got a pretty solid glimpse in that last episode of Nick’s lingering feelings for Juliette as well. I’m not sure how much they’ll explore this in the next two episodes, but this synopsis makes me think we’ll definitely see more development between the two of them in episode 11. (Thanks for sending me the link, @teamrebecchi !)

The thing about Adalind, though…I don’t necessarily want to see her revert back suddenly to being bad but I’m not sure what else they could do that would make sense. At this point the changes in Adalind were either powerful magic or shitty writing, but either way they’ve let it go on too long and played it too sincere without saying or even implying anything in canon that would make it clear that it’s the former.

And I just wish if they were going to try to redeem her character they had even made an attempt to actually earn it. Because they could have done a real, sincere redemption arc and shown incredible character development. Or, they could have had her go good temporarily due to magic before reverting back, and kept the amazing antagonist while adding an almost tragic storyline, a kind of “we got a glimpse of what she could have been” situation.

But neither of those things is possible now, and with only five episodes left I don’t know that there’s anything the writers could do at this point that would completely fix her character arc. The writers have ruined Adalind’s story, and it’s a shame, because the character was interesting and complex, and Claire Coffee’s performance has always been amazing.

I know it would probably the spell but hearing Monroe talking about how much he admires Eve for everything she has been through and everything that she’s lost and managing to survive it. Such a beautiful moment and I wonder if Monroe really feels that way towards Juliette/Eve. That he really does admire her but the spell just brought that out and made him tell her.

I think it’s very possible he does feel that way! Just not in a romantic context. I mean, we know Juliette/Eve said things that she really felt or had thought at moments in the past while under that spell. And Wu didn’t just spontaneously learn poetry because of the spell…he had to have that in him prior to the spell.

So I don’t think it’s inconceivable that Monroe does admire Eve for surviving everything she’s been through and managing to come out stronger every time. It’s just not something he would have felt comfortable voicing to her otherwise, and certainly not in the context of a romantic declaration; pretty sure that part would never have occurred to him.

I find it super cute and healing that Roaslee invited Juliette. She wasn’t excluded even though she’s had a crazy year and they’re still not sure what’s going on with her. It’s like they’re realizing she is still Juliette whatever happened with Eve and the Beist, and Juliette was their friend

It warmed my heart for sure! I love seeing the two of them becoming friends again…it’s not the same as what they had before, but it’s such a Rosalee thing to do, to reach out and draw her friend back into the group. I love how too sometimes there are moments where Rosalee gives Eve this look, like she knows it isn’t Eve she’s really talking to anymore and hasn’t been for a while, but she isn’t going to say anything until Juliette is ready to talk about it.

I can’t help feeling that there was some real hurt & anger coming from Juliette in that funny scene where everyone was yelling & pulling on each other. Yeah, she’s under a spell but some of the stuff she said to Adalind were really close to home. Like about Nick and the baby. I think the spell just caused Juliette’s feelings to flare up & she finally said what she has bottled up inside. Especially since the spell made her Desperate for Nick. And she’s already in love with the guy.

I think you’re right on the mark, Nonny! It’s pretty clear by this point that Eve/Juliette still has feelings for Nick, and there is definitely some baggage there for her with regards to him and Adalind. This isn’t the first time those things have come up as problems or points of tension between Nick, Juliette/Eve, and Adalind either.

I think the spell may have made her feelings for Nick turn to an obsession and broken any filter/barriers she might have had in place keeping her from saying or even thinking about certain things, but in her unique case the spell definitely didn’t put feelings or thoughts there that didn’t exist previously.

I’m not sure if this has been addressed already. But I’ve seen some n*dalind shippers say that Juliette/Eve could also be a rapist (when she turned into Renard and had to sleep with Rachel.) What do you think?

Hi Anon! Yes, we’ve addressed this twice now at FYNB: here and here.

Look, a lot of people in fandom seem to want to make this some kind of weird reverse competition: my ship isn’t that bad because this other ship is just as unhealthy! My fave isn’t problematic because look at the awful things your fave has done!

The implied goal of these kinds of questions and arguments seems to be “gotcha! see! you can’t criticize my faves anymore because you like this character who has done bad things as well!”

But it doesn’t work like that. One character’s evil actions do not become less abhorrent because another character committed similar actions. One relationship does not become healthier because another unhealthy relationship exists.

And that’s even if you assume we’re comparing like situations and dynamics, which 90% of the time when these things come up, we’re not.

You can’t look at someone with free will and someone without it committing the same action and say they’re equally culpable. You can’t discount one character’s canonical history of sexual violence and erase another’s canonical history of kindness and selflessness and then imply someone else is being “unfair” to the characters.

Just like you can’t excuse one character’s actions while under the influence of dark magic and condemn another character for their actions while under the influence of the same dark magic.

Well, I mean…you can, but it becomes pretty clear at that point that the goal is not to reach some kind of internal fandom character treatment consistency, but rather to shame or confound anyone who doesn’t like your problematic fave into silence.