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Discussion Time! Truhardt/Trubelhardt

kymmii-lee
replied to your post “If Nick and Adalind do become a thing I might end up dying of laughter…”

I kind of wanted Nick and Truble to have a Grimm thing……*hides face*

Hey, you’re not alone! I see people on my dash all the time who see Nick and Trubel as potentially romantic. I personally see them as more familial–either a father/daughter or big brother/little sister dynamic.

A huge part of that for me is the age difference and the potential power imbalance. To me it’s just a bit weird having a 21-year-old girl who’s spent most of her life alone and traumatized begin a romantic or sexual relationship with a man who’s over a decade her senior and who more or less rescued her from trauma, took her in off the street, and became a mentor to her. There’s just too much room there for an abuse of power for me to see it as a romantic ship.

But again…there are lots of people who feel differently than me on this point! For instance, some might point out that Trubel has also saved and taken care of Nick when his powers were suppressed by Adalind’s spell, so they’ve really rescued each other.

But, eh…the age difference still squicks me. Fandom? What say you? Any other Nick/Trubel fans out there? Or no? Why or why not? Do you see a power imbalance there that could be problematic in a romantic or sexual relationship? Or perhaps you headcanon Trubel as attracted to women/asexual/aromantic?

aboutnici
replied to your post “If Nick and Adalind do become a thing I might end up dying of laughter…”

Luke and Laura did it on General Hospital!

Which was also gross. Listen, I don’t care how many times it has been done (way too fucking many) or how successful it proved to be with viewers, having a rape victim fall in love with his/her rapist is fucked up in the extreme.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that possibly part of the reason this trope does have success with viewers is that like 95% of the things we’re conditioned to find romantic are part of rape culture. Sexual violence and nonconsent are endemic to heterosexual romance tropes.

That’s why people find Adalind and Nick’s behavior toward one another erotic and romantic. Not because it is in any way either, but because our cultural attitude towards sex conditions us to see violence and interpret it as passion, and to forgive/excuse/erase rapists’ crimes easily.

I also think heteronormativity comes into play in the way people ship Nick and Adalind in spite of all the very good reasons not to (and it’s not the only ship in Grimm where this is a problem, mind…just the example at hand and possibly one of the more egregious ones). Just as we’re trained to ignore sexual and romantic cues between same-sex couples and view these as exclusively platonic, we’re also trained to view all interactions between men and women in light of their romantic potential.

Intertwine heternormativity with rape culture, and we’re not trained to shut that “everything between men/women is romance or could be romance” lens off when rape becomes a part of the narrative. If anything, we’re trained to throw that right in there with all this other stuff (fighting, grabbing someone’s arm during an argument, threatening violence, enjoying causing each other pain/discomfort, etc) that should not, by any reasonable or healthy definition, be viewed as romantic.

And that. is. seriously. fucked. up.

watchingthedetective:

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

For all those who think Nick would never have forgiven Juliette, I’d like to refer you to the absolute heartbreak on his face as the woman he loved for years–whatever she’d done in the last couple of weeks–died in his arms while choking out his name one last time.

He would have forgiven her. It would have been hard, maybe, it would have taken time. But he would have forgiven her.

This. Absolutely this. 

GodDAMN. First his mother, now his long-term girlfriend. Just watch Adalind miscarry their baby, too. 

QUIET. THE WRITERS MIGHT HEAR YOU. SHUSH.

lockwoodfamilycourtjester:

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

For all those who think Nick would never have forgiven Juliette, I’d like to refer you to the absolute heartbreak on his face as the woman he loved for years–whatever she’d done in the last couple of weeks–died in his arms while choking out his name one last time.

He would have forgiven her. It would have been hard, maybe, it would have taken time. But he would have forgiven her.

Disagree. We know he wasn’t willing to kill her, but I don’t think their relationship was ever going to get back to where it was. He might have been willing to live and let live provided she didn’t do any more damage, but Juliette clearly wasn’t. She went back to the house for closure, however it ended up. I think she was done with him.  

The saddest part is, I think Juliette legit went to the house hoping Nick would kill her, and when he didn’t that just set her off again.

I don’t think Juliette was anywhere near actually wanting to come back, and I don’t think for a second they would have gotten back to where they were before. That’s not how relationships work; once a thing like that is broken it’s never quite what it was before, even if you do get to a good, new place eventually.

But that doesn’t mean that if she had wanted to come back, he wouldn’t have forgiven her. I really think he would have.