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replied to your post “OH LOOK AT THAT. MONROE IS FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO…”

It was her fault. Her turning into a Hexenbeist didn’t make her burn down the Grimmabago, help kill Nick’s mom and several of Nick’s neighbors; sleep w/other guys (and in Nick’s bed). Those were choices she made as a Hexenbeist. This just whitewashes her actions. Eh. But hey, they can do it for Adalind, they can for Juliette, right?

Actually, in season 5 they established–however badly it was explained or thought out–that hexenbiests and zauberbiests are heavily influenced or even controlled by their powers. So yes, turning into a hexenbiest did in fact make her do all of those things.

And even if it didn’t, this post was specifically talking about what happened to Juliette, i.e. her becoming a hexenbiest in the first place. Which was in fact not her fault.

I am sad that S6 of Grimm is so short, but I am (tentatively) hopeful about it. What do you think is the likely-hood of the Grimm writers setting Juliette and Nick on the mend? Even just ending it with them going on a date or whatever, planning to try and start over…? Do you think there is any hope for us Silverhardt fans?

I seriously doubt they’re going to have time for a date, and honestly I’ll be fine if they don’t address it as long as they do finish both characters’ separate arcs, but I will love a Silverhardt reunion of some kind, if and only if they can address the issues their relationship had…or at least end on a note that implies they will be addressed.

I”m happy it’s ending. Not cause I don’t love the show, it’s been my fave show for pretty much it’s entire run, but because I was worried it might jump the shark (the early warning signs were strong last season). This show (& the fandom) deserves a great ending not endless seasons of crap *shoots dirty looks at Supernatural*. Now here’s hoping they give us the ending we deserve. I’m annoyed we have to wait until Jan. though.

No argument here, to any of this. I really, really hope they give us an amazing ending worthy of everything they’ve done so far. Although I will be very sad to see it end. I watched this show all through graduate school and those weird years when I was figuring out what having a real job is, so it’s…odd to think of not having it now.

I wonder what Seans mom is going to think of her Son going full on evil, I mean her entire life she made sure Sean got to live and now he’s throwing all that away for power.

To answer this question I feel like it’s important to remember that Sean’s mother did raise him and probably knows her son better than anyone else. So she may be the least surprised person by his choices. In fact, he may have learned the things that led to those choices directly from her.

I’d also hesitate to call Sean “full on evil” at this point, or to say that he’s throwing his mother’s sacrifices away purely for the sake of power. First, it’s pretty clear to me that while power may be Sean’s goal, he doesn’t want power for power’s sake. There’s a long and complicated history there, much of which Sean has felt relatively powerless.

It’s also important to note that the single thing which seemed to turn Sean from a reluctant half-participant in Black Claw’s machinations to a full on company man? Was not the promise of power, but the moment they reunited him with Diana–the daughter he was powerless to protect once before. They were promising him power from the start, but it wasn’t until they put Diana in front of him that he got on board with their plans. So I think it’s pretty clear that for Sean, power is a means to an end: protecting himself and his loved ones.

As for the other part of that, he is definitely a full-on antagonist in a way he’s never been before now, but evil? Thus far in his stint with Black Claw he’s done nothing more gruesome or horrible than he’d done in any previous season, and he’s arguably killed fewer people than Nick by a lot. The only difference is that now he’s doing these things to characters we like.

Most of the time, this show’s antagonistic characters aren’t evil so much as they are suffering, and lashing out in one way or another due to that suffering. Many times there are extenuating circumstances that explain their actions, and/or they are not in control of their actions at all for one reason or another. So I would really hesitate to label most of the previous antagonists morally evil in a show which has never clearly defined its internal morality with any level of consistency, and which sets the morality bar for its heroes somewhere around charcoal gray.

Sean in particular has always struck me not as evil, but as shrewd, calculating, cautious, and ultimately self-serving. He does what he has to do to protect himself and his own, which is something I think Elizabeth would understand easily, even if she disagreed with his way of going about it.

So TL;DR: I feel like we’d have to have a much bigger discussion about the nature of moral good vs. evil and where that value judgment comes from–the action itself, the spirit or motivation behind it, the intended result, the actual immediate result, or the reverberating consequences, not to mention whether it’s actually a choice being actively made or simply the only possible or perceived possible action–before stamping Sean or any other character on the show with “evil.” And to be honest, I’m not sure I have the philosophical training required to outline the necessary parameters of that conversation, much less tackle the conversation itself.

While I’m sad that S6 will be a shortened season, I’m glad they’re having a chance to properly end it (and hopefully they’ll do it well) instead of it getting cancelled after a season’s cliffhanger or something. I’m not sure why it’s starting later though? I thought it worked so well starting around Halloween with the subject matter

I agree, I always loved getting a new season of Grimm right before Halloween. But the network hasn’t given a reason for the change yet, and may not. Presumably they have some show they think will do better lined up for Grimm’s time slot in the fall. Either that, or it’s to give the cast and crew of Grimm extra time for filming. Who knows, really?

How are you guys taking the news?

I honestly didn’t know until I got this ask and realized what it must be about. I’m….I honestly don’t know what to think. I’m sad that an amazing show has been cut short by one less-than-stellar season (which still had so many amazing moments!). I just want to make the most of the rest of hiatus and enjoy the last 13 episodes.

So Grimmsters, I’m opening it up to you: what are your hopes for season 6? What would you like to see on this blog in the coming months? How do you feel about NBC’s announcement?