Ugh Sean bugs me so much now… it just seems like a 1000% degree turn…

There are about a dozen moments in which I would have forgiven Sean if he had just stepped the fuck up.

But I feel like the last one has well and truly passed for me. And that was that moment with Nick at the end of the finale. For like half a second I thought Sean had finally, finally stepped up and done what he should have done all along: protected the people he cared about.

I would have forgiven him for siding with Black Claw. I might have even forgiven him for killing Meisner, if he had just chosen in that moment to save Nick.

But no. It wasn’t Sean. It was Diana, punishing the man who hurt her mother (while Sean stood by and watched). Diana, protecting her family. Diana, a child, doing what a grown-ass adult wouldn’t do for reasons no child should ever have to understand.

I don’t think I can forgive him after this.

So is Juliette back now? DID THE MAGIC STICK REMOVE HER HEXENBEIST-INESS? I mean I love Juliette but Eve is a bamf in her own right.

It’s not really clear at this point! I mean, if I had to guess I’d say the stick removed her hexen powers and restored all the emotions stripped away from her by HW’s “training.” But we saw so little of her that I’m almost afraid to guess!

At any rate, I think it’s clear that Juliette is definitely back, and I cannot wait to see what the writers have in store for us next year!

Gotta be honest, I lasted 5 minutes before I bailed tonight. I don’t know if I can handle this episode. I really don’t know if I can handle another show making my favourite character *evil/bad guy* again and watch wondering if they’ll die….

I completely understand. That’s how I felt last year watching what was happening to Juliette. I did a lot of screaming at my screen then, too.

@pixiedustandbluebutterflies and I have talked about this a bit, and the way we see it, there are only a few possible explanations here:

  1. Sean has really gone all the way over to the dark side. This was always in him and we just never saw it because it was so hidden (this would be bad writing and a complete character assassination, imo).
  2. Sean has really gone all the way over to the dark side. This was always in him and we never saw it because we didn’t want to, but it was clearly there (this would be terrible but also really good writing; I could grudgingly get on board with this).
  3. Sean is playing some kind of long game of his own, and doesn’t really believe in anything Black Claw stands for (this seems less and less likely with each episode).
  4. Sean is doing this all for his daughter, and doesn’t really believe in anything Black Claw stands for (this also seems less likely after that last episode).
  5. Sean went into this initially to save Diana, but Diana has been controlling Sean since the moment Black Claw brought her to him (this is the one I’m hoping for tbh, it would explain so much).

What do you mean by not liiking the tone of this season?

Well, I can’t tell you for certain what the anon meant when they asked that question, but I can give you a short list of the things about this season I haven’t liked at all, which have worked together to contribute to the problem:

  • the forced development of a romance that makes no sense between Nick and Adalind.
  • the “hexenbiests and zauberbiests can’t help being bad” thing that is the only explanation they’ve given so far for why Team Grimm (and the audience) should forgive Adalind or why Sean is acting so OOC.
  • Sean being completely out of character, while we’re at it, and the show giving no decent explanation for the sudden change.
  • years of character development for Sean and relationship development between him and the rest of Team Grimm thrown out the window.
  • everyone blaming Juliette for what happened to her while never taking responsibility for their part in it (except Rosalee, god bless Rosalee).
  • Adalind getting tons of understanding, support, and the benefit of the doubt from Team Grimm while having done nothing to earn any of it (and in fact having a history that suggests she shouldn’t be given any of those things).
  • Adalind’s entire character and her arc being scrapped with a retcon that waters her down and robs her of nearly all agency (not to mention makes no sense in the context of the rest of the show).
  • the show abandoning several important themes that have always been at the heart of it (the power of choice over nature, for example).
  • Bud Wurstner being nowhere to be found.
  • the lack of trust between the members of Team Grimm (because I absolutely consider Sean a member of Team Grimm); the split and messed up and uncertain loyalties between people who were toasting to their friendship after risking everything to save one of their own barely more than a year ago.
  • the general “sea change without satisfactory explanation” that has been enacted on so many characters, relationships, and world dynamics.
  • the show’s continued inability/unwillingness to acknowledge that men can be victims of rape.

Just to name a few. I’m still hoping the Grimm Writers will pull through in the eleventh hour, but even if they do, some of this will seem just completely unnecessary.

And the really sad thing is, I think they’re doing most of this to try and make the show seem darker. Yet overall, the show is not really any darker than it’s ever been. Just murkier. Nothing makes sense, and not necessarily in a way that feels intentional.

I have a feeling someoneis going to “die” and the grimmstick thing will bring them back. Maybe it’ll be Eve and she’ll be brought back as Juliette? I don’t know but 2 hours of crazy and we litterally don’t know the half of it

I KNOW, RIGHT?!

I mean I honestly never know what’s going to happen but usually I can guess one or two things. This season I literally have no idea what’s going to go down or how, and that whole “so shocking we can’t show you anything from the second half” bit is like…WTF IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Especially since that second bit will be after 10pm, which is when networks expect that the kiddies will be in bed, so they can bring out things like Hannibal.

Which is really worrying because have you seen the level of fucked up that is Hannibal?!

What I’m also worried about is how that whole perilous side of things is going to work. I mean, we haven’t seen any adverse effects on Monroe from being healed, but in most shows/mythologies bringing someone back from the dead is difficult, forbidden, and/or never comes without serious consequences.

Although now I think I would love to see Nick choose to take that risk and use the stick to bring Eve back. 

I love that Grimm keep emphasising the amount of power that Black Claw clearly has. Like, you really don’t know what their limits are and that makes them quite terrifying as they can obviously get to anyone and everyone.

What’s also terrifying is that they seemingly came out of nowhere this season, which suggests they’ve been amassing this kind of power for a while now, completely hidden, and are only showing their faces because they finally believe they are unstoppable.

I mean, they seem to be both global and grassroots. They’re tied up in terrorist organizations, local politics, the foster system…they’re in everything. And it explains why Agent Chavez was so ready to get Trubel on their side last season, too! Perhaps she knew Black Claw would be actively recruiting Grimms as well?

What I never expected was for the way Nick has fought with and helped Wesen to be bent that way, into some indication that he would be willing to side with Wesen against humans if it came down to it.

All the Grimm blogs are scaring me tonight, I haven’t seen it yet (48minutes….) Renard is my favourite character and it sounds like I’m going to scream at my television…

Please accept this virtual hug and huge spoilers under the cut:


Sean isn’t dead or anything but it’s seriously looking like it might go that way. He’s sided completely with Black Claw and seems to actually buy into their idea of a world run by Wesen, and he tried to recruit Nick to their cause and convince him that together they could create a better world (it was all very Luke and Darth Vader at the end of Empire, really).

So now Nick wants Sean dead, pretty much every member of Team Grimm is on board, and the only thing keeping Sean alive right now is the fact that he and Black Claw have Kelly.