Hey there. So I saw the facebook live chat David and Sasha did a few weeks ago, and in it David said before they knew they would get renewed for season 6, the writers had written 2 different scenarios for the ending. My guess is that moment when Renard kills Bonaparte. Like, Renard could’ve killed Bonaparte out of his own free will to redeem himself with Team Grimm. What’s your take on it? My brother said it totally seemed forced that way, but I want to know what fellow Grimmsters think.

I hope if they wrote a different ending in case of cancellation, it changed more than just Sean choosing to help Nick. Because while that would have at least slightly given his character the option of being redeemed in my eyes, it wouldn’t have even remotely provided closure for the series’s multiple unfinished plot threads or any of the characters, including Sean.

So…if they wrote two different endings, I hope it was more like two different last-thirty-minutes, not two different last-three-seconds.

I’m confused by the fandom’s reaction to Renard…. If you don’t know why well go back and rewatch Grimm up until Renard joins team Grimm. We are finally seeing his true colors in all their glory: a cowardly, amoral, power hungry jerk who was only on the team because they were useful to him. Which is something I knew since the beginning and I’m usually awful at predicting shows as twisty as grimm can be.

Hi There Anon – Admin Liz here. I think the reaction comes from a feeling of betrayal. At least it does for me. While it’s always been clear that he’s been out for himself, he still had people who he seemed to care about (or at the very least trust and respect). He betrayed all of those people in this season. 

Also, I’ve never considered him a pawn – he’s always had a lot of strength and confidence, especially in his power as person, half-Royal, and half-Zauberbiest. In this year’s finale specifically, he seemed to lose all dignity he previously had and just let Boneparte play him, and the people he had worked with the last four years (more with Nick, Hank, Wu, Meisner, and Adalind). 

I, personally, have no real issue with him going full dark side. I don’t even really have a problem with him betraying Team Grimm, because you’re right, that’s not out of character for him at all. What I do have a problem with is that he suddenly lost all of his ferocity, and I kept waiting for him to at least bear his teeth, something, anything, to try to take some of the power that Black Claw promised him, but he didn’t. He was just as much of a hostage as Adalind, Diana, and Kelly, but unlike them, he was just rolling with it. He had no problem just rolling over for Boneparte and everyone else. There was none of that Sean Renard swagger that he’d always had.

So… yeah I guess that’s what I’m personally most upset about. 

DOes it count as them killing your favourite character when the actor is still walking around on set theoretically “playing” him? Like Rennard is still my favourite character but I feel like going back and watching season 1 through 4 and stopping to feel better now….

Hi there – Admin Liz here. He’s dead to me too right now, so sure, you can say they killed your fave. I loved pre-season five Renard as well, but at this point idk if he will ever be able to redeem himself. I’m sorry for your loss, Grimmster.

My question is, would the zauberbeist have been able to kill nick by “strangling” him? Because Nick still had the stick so would that be able to save him from being strangled? THE QUESTIONS FROM LAST NIGHTS EPISODE ARE ENDLESS!

Hi there! Admin Liz here – WE ASKED THE SAME THING. I personally don’t think he would have been able to kill him. But, I’m glad that we didn’t find out because I wouldn’t have wanted him to be resurrected in front of Renard. The last thing we need right now is for him to even remotely know about the stick.

Ugh Sean bugs me so much now… it just seems like a 1000% degree turn…

There are about a dozen moments in which I would have forgiven Sean if he had just stepped the fuck up.

But I feel like the last one has well and truly passed for me. And that was that moment with Nick at the end of the finale. For like half a second I thought Sean had finally, finally stepped up and done what he should have done all along: protected the people he cared about.

I would have forgiven him for siding with Black Claw. I might have even forgiven him for killing Meisner, if he had just chosen in that moment to save Nick.

But no. It wasn’t Sean. It was Diana, punishing the man who hurt her mother (while Sean stood by and watched). Diana, protecting her family. Diana, a child, doing what a grown-ass adult wouldn’t do for reasons no child should ever have to understand.

I don’t think I can forgive him after this.

Are you SHITTING ME Sean Renard? It took a TINY CHILD to do what you should have been doing this entire time?! You are a grown-ass adult and your child had to do what you should have done.

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

SEAN GROW A FUCKING BACKBONE AND DO SOMETHING

FUCKING CO-SIGNED. SEAN, STOP WATCHING THE PEOPLE YOU SUPPOSEDLY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BE TORTURED AND KILLED. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE BADASS I LOVED FOR FOUR YEARS. HUH? ARE YOU REALLY WILLING TO LET THESE PEOPLE REBUILD THE WORLD? ARE YOU REALLY GONNA COMPROMISE THIS MUCH FOR A TINY BIT OF LOCAL POWER?!