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LBR – Nick handles a lot of things incorrectly, like any human. But I appreciate that he doesn’t want to just break up with Juliette “for her own safety.” Instead, he wants to give her the information she needs to make an informed decision. 

This is how all of our literary/media “heroes” should handle this situation. Keeping your loved ones in the dark does not keep them safe – it makes them unable to properly defend themselves. So thank you, Nick, for trusting that Juliette can make a decision for herself. 

I’m the anon who dislikes Juliette (thanks for not hating me!) I agree about the pushing us to hate her and about Nick needing some sense of normalcy. About him being better off without her though maybe he wouldn’t have been at the start of the season (putting aside personal opinion, that would’ve ruined him) or at any other point but at the end of the season with the writers pushing her so hard in that direction and all she did, I think he’s better off not being with someone who caused him pain

I hear you, anon. A person who hurts you repeatedly and takes pleasure in it is not a person you want to stay in a relationship with. And although I think the nature of human interactions is that we inevitably cause each other pain at times, I do think that if Juliette survives, Nick might forgive her for the things she did but they could never be the way they were again, even if they actually talked everything out and both admitted the places they were at fault and the places they weren’t.

One could also argue it the other way, though: Juliette would have been better off without Nick. She would have been better off not being with someone who lied to her, repeatedly put her life in danger, dismissed her emotions whenever they weren’t convenient for him, and caused her a lot of physical harm as well as emotional pain for several years.

Their relationship was very cute at times, but at others it was one-sided and extremely unhealthy, since the very first season. Nick’s greatest flaw is his self-absorption and avoidance, while Juliette’s is/was that if she loved someone, she would be too accommodating of their wants and needs, to the point of ignoring her own. It was a toxic combination that would have torn them apart eventually, in my opinion. Her transformation and all that followed just hastened things along.

Confession time: I never ever liked Juliet but I don’t think I full on hated her until the last bit of the last season. I think Nick is better off without her (no disrespect for Nickette shippers). Please don’t hate me!!

There’s nothing inherently wrong with disliking Juliette because you don’t connect with her character, or don’t think her arc is interesting, or don’t like her choices. My problem–as I’m sure you’ve seen if you follow my rants on FYNB–is with the misogyny behind some of the reasons people cite for disliking Juliette.

But I honestly think toward the end the writers were pushing us to hate her, only to try and pull an about-face and give us emotional whiplash at the end with Nick’s grief over her “death” (I’m still in denial). It worked for me, because I love Juliette, and it worked for some people who just hate to see Nick in pain…but I’m not sure it worked as well as the writers might have hoped for those who fully dove into hating her toward the end. Or maybe the writers just wanted us to hate her and weren’t expecting Bitsie and David to sell it as well as they did. I haven’t decided yet.

But the point is, there’s nothing inherently wrong with disliking a character. I of course disagree that Nick is better off without her, and I really worry what he’s going to do without her around to provide some sense of normalcy and stability in his life…and the lives of the rest of Team Grimm to boot. He wasn’t doing so great towards the end when she was transformed, so I can’t imagine how bad off he’ll be now if she’s actually dead.

But no. I don’t hate you, Nonny.

lockwoodfamilycourtjester:

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

For all those who think Nick would never have forgiven Juliette, I’d like to refer you to the absolute heartbreak on his face as the woman he loved for years–whatever she’d done in the last couple of weeks–died in his arms while choking out his name one last time.

He would have forgiven her. It would have been hard, maybe, it would have taken time. But he would have forgiven her.

Disagree. We know he wasn’t willing to kill her, but I don’t think their relationship was ever going to get back to where it was. He might have been willing to live and let live provided she didn’t do any more damage, but Juliette clearly wasn’t. She went back to the house for closure, however it ended up. I think she was done with him.  

The saddest part is, I think Juliette legit went to the house hoping Nick would kill her, and when he didn’t that just set her off again.

I don’t think Juliette was anywhere near actually wanting to come back, and I don’t think for a second they would have gotten back to where they were before. That’s not how relationships work; once a thing like that is broken it’s never quite what it was before, even if you do get to a good, new place eventually.

But that doesn’t mean that if she had wanted to come back, he wouldn’t have forgiven her. I really think he would have.

For all those who think Nick would never have forgiven Juliette, I’d like to refer you to the absolute heartbreak on his face as the woman he loved for years–whatever she’d done in the last couple of weeks–died in his arms while choking out his name one last time.

He would have forgiven her. It would have been hard, maybe, it would have taken time. But he would have forgiven her.

That scene was just fucking painful, okay. And THAT…the woman who just died in Nick’s arms…THAT was Juliette…and she looked so confused…like she didn’t know what was happening or why…and Nick’s name was her last breath.

Oh god just leave me here to sob for the next FEW MONTHS.

OH god. Oh god that scene. That was horrible. Some part of her deep down still loves him, even under all the anger and the power lust and the utter loss of self.

And what’s even worse is that he still loves her. God, no matter what she did, how angry he was…he didn’t want her dead. He was still in love with her, to the very end.