Tag: siobhan answers

Okay, by next season, will Renard rediscover his brains and spine and maybe use the opportunity that he killed Sebastian to get back on Nick’s goodish side? And I have to wonder, did he forget how Nick gets whenever someone threatens his loved ones? People die when Nick’s loved ones are hurt.

Here’s hoping!

And this Renard fan is really, really hoping that he had his brains messed with by Bonaparte or Diana, and that this recent characterization is not a total fail on behalf of the writers.

If we have to have evil!Sean, I would like him to have brains and a damn spine, like you say.

Have you read the comic Renard’s Reckoning? It’s almost the same story, except Renard kills the gang boss out of his own free will and takes control of the city in the most epic way.

That comic is how this storyline should have gone down, and I think it was the inspiration for it as Renard also kills a ‘friend’ to further his own ends.

(And I assume you mean Conrad Bonaparte, not Sebastien. Sebastien was one of Renard’s ‘friends’ who was killed by Viktor whilst he and Meisner were trying to get Adalind and Diana out of Austria.)

Random thought

What if Zuri is one of the crazy wesen that’s part of black claw and is trying to get back in with Hank to lure him away from Nick?…i mean she did refer to Nick as “the Grimm”…

nymphsenchantment submitted this

I (Mod Siobhan) think you’re right! A sudden change of heart, being in Hank’s local food shop* when it’s waay across town from where she lives, her previous very rigid stance on Human/Wesen relationships. Her brother is away at college, so not in harm’s way, and she did grill him a bit about Nick…

And since we’ve not seen Black Claw specifically go after Nick, only attack him when he was with HW, this must be their plan, since there is no way they think they can hold Portland with Nick still alive…

(*Grocery store? Siobhan can’t American very well)

I feel like half of Adalind’s thing with Nick can be chalked up to the fact that he is the only non-infant she’s seeing for days at a time, it’s some weird variation of stockholm syndrome.

Possibly. Possibly she does feel some romantic connection with him. Doesn’t mean it’s a healthy thing. 

Adalind has this thing where she sort of fixates on a man, she did it with Sean, and now she’s realised he’s not exactly Prince Charming, she’s doing it with Nick. 

It’s not ‘love’, cause love demands respect, but it’s ‘something’

Adalind & Nick are the most illogical, unbelievable & forced ship i’ve ever seen on TV. are the writers even thinking of this is a realistic way? even if that could work which i cant really see anyway, they need more time than a few months. Has all the bad that adalind has done to nick & his friends (especially juliette & hank) been forgotten?

!!!!!

Yes!

Even if they go with the ‘Hexenbiest powers mean you can be forgiven for anything you do whilst with them’ story, which is weak, she did what she did to Juliette whilst de-powered, and also slept with Sean whilst he was under the rape-y Sleeping Beauty curse thing, which is not proper consent, and she did that to get pregnant with a baby she fully intended to sell, whilst depowered. It doesn’t matter if she changed her mind and kept Diana, she fully intended to sell her into god knows what first, AND only changed her mind fully when she got her powers BACK, so bang goes that ‘theory’.

I swear, it’s like the Season 5 writers only watched the last half of Season Four and none of what came before it.

Hey admins, I’m glad you’re all anti-nadalind. I’ve been calling what Adalind has done to Nick (with Hank and Sean too) rape. I cannot believe that the writers are toying with this idea. I can’t believe more of the Internet is not talking about this. There should be buzzfeed articles about how completely horrifying and problematic this is. Seriously. I really hope that they’re just f*cking with us. I love this show, but if they become a thing I don’t know if I can watch it.

I have considered pitching an article (I’m a freelance writer) but the thing is, as far as I can see, Grimm doesn’t have that much of a following, when you compare it to other things that Buzzfeed, the Vulture etc, report on.

I keep hoping they’re going to pull a twist, but as of last episode I’m just …. urgh. 

Anyway, I might yet pitch a piece in the next week or so, there’s a couple of places that might carry it.

THANK you for calling what happened to Nick rape. I’ve met one too many people (including “feminists”) who say men can’t be raped by women. Also I wanted to point out that people tend to make crappy decisions when highly emotional. I’m hoping when Nick gets his head straight, he’ll realize that being with Adalind is a horrible idea. *sighs* That man needs a good cry, a good fight (not usually a good idea but he’s got too much anger right now), and a good talk with someone neutral asap.

Yep. Speaking from experience, abuse makes you do dumb shit. It makes you feel things that aren’t healthy, and often you don’t realise until it’s too late. It’s really sad that it happens, and it’s really sad that, in essence, you end up brainwashed into accepting situations you wouldn’t ordinarily deal with.

And I could totally get behind that happening to Nick – if it wasn’t played off as cute or sexy or anywhere approaching acceptable. 

I wanted to ask you to something on Kelly, and the realized there’s not a lot of him in the show. Why isn’t there more Kelly? With Nick? We need more of that.

We do! I did write a jokingly sarcastic response about how it’s a cunning framing device to make us feel more kindly towards Adalind, then I realised I was right and that’s exactly what it is.

In TV and Film there’s a device called Pat The Dog – if the character pats the dog, the audience sees them as a good person. It’s shorthand, if you will, to give people certain characteristics without them actually having to do anything kind or heroic within the story – usually saving time in the film. Harry Potter has it (talks to the snake at the zoo), the Ninth Doctor has it (cuddles a cat), any small act of kindness that the character didn’t have to do, like give change to a homeless person for example, is a Pat the Dog moment.

It’s not always animal based, it’s often used with babies, as in this case. We see Adalind performing various baby related duties with a smile on her face, the baby seems happy, if a person makes a baby happy they must be a good person.

To show Nick handling Kelly would distract from that at present, but to mention that Nick doesn’t do anything for Kelly would mean that Nick is a bad father. So, the only time you see Kelly on screen is with Adalind* so you feel more kindly towards her without her actually having to do anything kind or selfless to anyone else.

I for one would love to see more of Kelly, especially with Nick. I want to see how he feels towards Kelly, rather than the sense of duty he has towards him. I’d actually like to see more of Adalind and Kelly, beyond pat the dog moments. She has a great fear as well as a great longing for motherhood, but I’m sliding off your point here.

We do need more Nick and Kelly, I would like to know how he plans to raise him – knowing of the Wesen world, or not? And other similar questions. I’m really curious.

(*I know they had a couple of scenes together, but mainly it’s Adalind for the reasons outlined above. My drama training ruining TV shows again.)