Ok this question is just in the line of my another colleage anon, about have Bitsie and some GrimmWriters blocking to their fans . Ok i don´t have instagram, and i rarely interact in twitter and never in facebook, i don´t like make that. But i think that is quite inadvisable to declare war on your audience don´t you think? some ppl were blocked basically for say that Bitsie ” is not a good actress” since when a Show is not opened to all type of reviews? a show is made for that precisely not?

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

Well no, anon, I don’t think. I don’t think blocking rude people is even remotely comparable to “declaring war on your audience,” for one thing. For another, as I said in my previous post, I have never once seen a Grimm fan get blocked for respectful criticism, questions, and/or discussion.

Now assuming any of the claims of blocking being made are true–seeing as no one has bothered to provide any source for these accusations–showing up on someone’s personal instagram and saying they’re no good is not a “review.” It’s basically like knocking on someone’s front door and being like “you suck.” And the kind of comment you reference here is way at the lower end of the kind of bullshit Bitsie Tulloch gets daily on her instagram account, so it’s not even that relevant an example.

There’s no good reason for that kind of comment. It’s plain and simple meanness with no other purpose. People who post that kind of thing aren’t improving the show, they’re definitely not making the cast, crew, and writers want to interact with fans or listen to them more, and they’re not improving anyone’s performance. It’s useless, unnecessary rudeness, and exactly the kind of comment that should get people blocked.

Now, this is the last thing I’m going to say about this topic, although if other admins want to chime in they’re welcome to:

I’ve had a few fan experiences–in different fandoms, and one as recently as last night–over the years, and there are always fans in every fandom who have weird ideas about what they’re owed for watching, or listening, or reading, or buying. Frankly, it’s embarrassing and I’m tired of it. It’s a large part of the reason I typically opt NOT to meet or interact with the people who create the things I love even when the opportunity presents itself: I don’t want to be grouped in their minds with the kind of bratty, petty people who assume they’re owed more just for liking something.

So I feel pretty strongly that audience members who get all up in arms about what the creators owe their fans need to remember two things:

  1. The people who make our entertainment don’t owe us a goddamn thing, interaction-wise. They make a thing, we support it, they keep making the thing…and that’s it. That’s all they owe. The fact that they interact with us beyond the product they make is not an obligation, but a gift. It’s something they choose to do. And if they choose to stop interacting with certain people who take advantage of that to be needlessly rude, they have every right to do so.
  2. These are actual living, breathing people and those people have just as much right to their feelings as anyone else. If they don’t want to deal with negativity in their online spaces, especially the kind that’s pure vitriol and serves no actual purpose, then they don’t have to. And that doesn’t make them bad at their jobs or interfere with the “purpose” of their show.

Hi Anon, Admin Siobhan here.

You probably didn’t know this, but I’m an actor.

And as an actor, I will tell you where reviews go.

In the paper. On a blog/website.

Nowhere else. 

You do not EVER wander on to an actor’s/writer’s/creator’s social media and leave them ‘reviews’. Those are not reviews. Those are horrible crappy comments, given by horrible, crappy people who think they are entitled to tell a creator anything they like so long as they phrase it as a critique/review.

Are you allowed to air your opinions about Bitsie’s acting publicly? Of course you are. But those opinions go on YOUR social media, not hers. 

What these people are doing is not ‘reviews’. It’s bullying, plain and simple. We’re told as actors to actively ignore, and yes, BLOCK people like this because if these people’s reviews were worth anything they’d have free tickets/early showing and a byline in the paper.

And not one of these people have either of those, just this misguided notion that actors aren’t real people, and every single opinion you have about one of us is fair game to scream it in our faces, virtually or otherwise.

How would these people like it if hundreds of people flooded their social media with comments about how terrible they are at their jobs, deserved or otherwise?

And while we’re at it, most of the comments about Bitsie aren’t even about her acting, they’re about her looks, which is another level of horrible. 

The level of entitlement that these fans are having not only to say these horrible things to another human being and think they’re justified in doing that, but to then complain about being blocked is unreal.

And if you ever begin to think any of this is justified, just think about who exactly is getting the lion’s share of it.

It’s not David. It’s Bitsie. The level of misogyny I see in these comments is frankly, awful.

TL;DR, Not everyone needs YOUR opinion on their job performance. Reviews belong in the paper, most of this stuff aimed at Bitsie is misogynistic, as a fan you are entitled to precisely nothing. Poor Bitsie, if you’re reading this you’re wonderful and pretty and don’t deserve this crap.

I love reading your opinions and wanted to ask, what do you think of what Grimm have done with Renhardt over the seasons and where they are now?

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

Hi Anon – Admin Liz here. I think that Sean and Nick have had a very tense relationship (however you want to define it, romantic, friend, coworkers, etc) ever since Nick presented as a Grimm. 

Team Grimm has always been sort of suspicious of Renard, and who can blame them? His motivations have never been obvious, and we really have no idea where his loyalties lie (nowhere in my opinion, I think he’s out for himself, which is one of the reasons I love him). 

Ever since S1, they’ve relied on each other out of necessity – they know a lot of secrets about each other. The conflict we’re seeing between them this season is something that seems to have been building for a while now, and I’m excited to see how it gets resolved (whether it ends in Renard being our Big Bad, or in him tellng Nick he has a plan, or something completely out of left field). 

Hi Anon! Admin Liza here with my own two cents.

I actually find the tension between them now a little sudden and oddly contrived, given the events of the last two seasons in particular.

Renard definitely did not have the team’s trust in the beginning, but since season two they’ve relied heavily on him to go about their business, and in season three he actually trusted them enough to not only allow them to, but assist them in making off with his infant daughter. That’s a lot of faith to put in anyone.

Not to mention that he was the one who originally figured out what Adalind had done to Nick, and tried desperately to get the antidote to him in time–in fact died trying to do so.

Then, on the team’s side, they have worked very closely with Renard and trusted him with a lot up until this season, and showed real concern and caring when he was shot…not to mention that they went way out of their way to save him when he was possessed by Jack the Ripper, endangering themselves in order to help him.

In fact, Renard’s been involved in one way or another in everything they’ve done up until the magic stick’s discovery. And while the fandom has certainly had its questions about his true motives and trustworthiness over the years, the actual characters haven’t questioned his place as a part of their team in a long time. Moreover, there’s very clearly been a level of mutual respect and understanding there, and an ability to talk about things, even things that were difficult or personal.

So it just seems…odd to me, this sudden turn of events, with none of them talking to each other or trusting each other. Renard suddenly doesn’t trust Nick and Co. enough to tell them what’s going on with Black Claw (specifically that his main reason for siding with them is that they have his daughter)? Nick and Hank suddenly don’t trust him enough to ask him point-blank what’s going on? Monroe and Rosalee suddenly have never trusted him at all, despite two seasons’ worth of evidence to the contrary? It just…doesn’t add up for me.

Honestly, it reminds me a little too much of the way things went with Juliette last season. The writers were determined to sever her ties with the team, and they weren’t overly concerned with how much sense that process actually made in light of everything that came before so long as they got to the ending they wanted.

Never mind that this course of action (and certain other poorly-developed and ill-conceived plot developments) have led to the first real renewal scare this show has had since its first season. They’re still gonna do it again.

(If I sound a little bitter and disappointed, Nonny, it’s because I am.)

Hi, Admin Siobhan here!

I have a horrible feeling that they’re really gunning for the Biests are TERRIBLE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE BIEST so therefore Sean must be a horrible person because he still has his Biest and this distresses me 

Also, the fact that Black Claw specifically want to use Diana as a weapon, which is the one thing Sean could not abide and yet is apparently fine with this if he’s the one who benefits, not Viktor? Utter character assassination. 

Sean Renard has been courting Nick since BEFORE Series One, and he’s gonna throw it away for Black Claw? A terrorist organisation who despise Kehrseite? And presumably half-Kehrseite, like Sean, since Zuri and co think Wesen/Human relationships are disgusting?

Like, I know Renard’s no angel. I know he’s out for himself. However, after all he’s sacrificed, the Key, his daughter, his own life, for Nick, why would he do the two things Nick will despise him for? A) join Black Claw and b) lie about it

Nick isn’t dim, he’d know the value of someone on the inside, especially someone they went to all that trouble to recruit

And Sean, for all his selfishness, does believe in a free world, a world without monarchy and tyrants – sure, he’d probably like a world without the lies like Black Claw do, but there’s no way he’d go for people being murdered just for what they are, not when his own family tried to do it to him

Like, the reason Sean was such a good villain/anti-villian/anti-hero was because most of the time, he thinks he’s doing the right thing. And killing Kehrseite purely because that’s what they are? No way does he think that’s the right thing.

(Also, do you know which particular character’s refusal to talk to Sean is really OOC? HANK! Hank was probably the closest thing to a friend Renard had, like he even specifically asked Hank for his support, and then Hank never asked him why. Not ‘why are you working with Black Claw?’ but ‘Why are you running for Mayor? What are you doing? How does it all work? How are you feeling?’ all of these questions could have helped Hank find out about where Renard actually stood, and Renard probably would’ve told him the truth, but he’s been shown nothing but a blank wall from both of them, so he’s gotta know they know? It’s just…aargh. )

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sexytrekkie:

I know everyone is still feeling from the whole Juliette situation, but I can’t stop thinking about the fact that the King said the Queen is dead, and then the King is murdered. Does that mean Viktor is now King? I WANT TO SEE THAT SO BAD!! He killed mayor players, the Verat…

I completely agree Viktor should be the next king.  And he will be brilliant and it will be bloody.  Viktor will kill anybody who challenges him for the throne.  Which I imagine will happen considering that there are seven royal families and Viktor was not the related to King Fredrick.  So one of more members or other families might be pissed that they weren’t tapped for next to be king.  And Sean should have a legitimate claim to the throne considering he is the late king’s blood son.  Even if he is a bastard he still is the son of the king meaning that he has the right to ascend to the throne.  In these matters usually only the kings blood matters.  So next season could be very interesting with the Royals and who is going to be the next king.  I hope the writers go with this kind of story line.   

If Sean challenged for the throne, he would only get it if he had the military force to essentially overthrow the Rightful King. British history is scattered with bastards and bastard cousins seven times removed who thought they had a rightful claim, but they don’t. The line of succession only goes through legitimate sons, then legitimate daughters, then it goes wider to cousins or uncles etc. Sean therefore has no rightful claim, and neither has Diana, but the Royal Family are making an exception to her because of her powers. They could also pass her off as Eric’s-through-a-secret-marriage now that he’s dead. But considering her power no one is going to put up much of a fuss.

The British royal line of succession was very complicated – a generation or so back, a King had to abdicate because he wanted to marry a divorced woman. It’s only in 2010 or thereabouts that the first British Royal married someone not of Royal blood who wasn’t a Duchess of Somewhere-or-Other. The 21st century and people were still concerned about the bloodline of the Royal Family, and they barely do anything anymore.

The rules of who gets to be King are very complicated in Britain, considering how weird monarchy is the world over, I would expect it to be the same in Austria – though their exact rules of succession are more than likely that not different to ours, they’re probably just as weird.

Of course, the rules in Grimm might be entirely different – but if Sean had a legit claim, he would have a)been included with the main family socially, which Sean says he wasn’t and b) wouldn’t be referred to as a bastard. Repeatedly. Bastards literally have no claim to their father’s estate, heritage or standing, which is why it was so shameful to be or be called one.

Knowing Grimm, they are probably going to pull a fast one and prove me wrong, though. I still don’t trust half of what comes out of Sean’s mouth.

This is a good point the only reason I think Sean has any sort of claim to the throne is because the Royals have such a weird system set up.  With seven royal families and one king.  Now Sean is the only one left with a direct bloodline of the King.  While Viktor is should be the next in line due to how there system seems to be set up, Viktor is not related to the king (I believe I remember him calling the King Uncle but I am thinking that it is only an honorary title, might not be).  Honestly I kind of expect them to have Sean try to disrupt the royals and give the resistance enough time to eliminate the some of the royal families.  I don’t expect Sean to actually become King.

They never actually clarified that there was only one king, did they? There are seven families and we’ve only met/heard about one king…but then we’ve only met or heard about one of the families mostly too, so that makes sense.

I always took king to mean head of that particular royal family. There could very well be six other kings/queens/heads/top dogs, one for each of the other houses, unless I just missed something. We just haven’t heard much about them, or really much at all about the state of the Wesen world outside of Western Europe and the U.S.

Sean doesn’t have a claim to the throne, nor has he shown anything about wanting it. His discussion with Sebastian in the bar/restaurant clearly stated that he was anti-monarchy and pro-democracy. Plus, the Grimm writers have clearly made a statement that all hexenbiest are vindictive, and destroying the Royals because of what the Queen did to him and his mother fits perfectly. “They tried to kill and destroy me and my mom, so I am going to spend my life destroying them.” Not a new concept. Now, he has outright claimed Portland and Nick. There is no denying that. His city and his Grimm.

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