Tag: speculation

I’m starting to think Skull face is some kind of wesen god or the devil. And that portal seems like purgatory. Julieve and nick cheated death and they were not innocent when they did. So this Thing wants the soul that was coming it’s way. The same can’t go for diana, but she is this force that is extremely powerful, unpredictable and uncontrollable. Either skull face wants to set the world right or it wants to use her for dominion over earth. But then monroe was also cured, y can’t he see it?

That’s certainly a possibility, although you’re right, this Wesen god/devil’s concept of innocence would have to be pretty in-the-moment or subjective because we all know Monroe has some messed up shit in his past.

I personally think the other world is some kind of primeval universe where Wesen originated, perhaps in a less human form than we know them in our world in the show.

Wesen as we know them in the world of Grimm are humans with a hidden side that resembles an animal or folk creature–wolves, foxes, goats, sheep, rabbits, rats, snakes, mice, birds, merpeople, dragons, etc.

But what if they descended from beings that were less human, who had nothing to hide that side behind? Or what if the Wesen nature is more like a symbiotic relationship, virus, or possession? We’ve only seen a few examples to support this–hexenbiests, grausen, and lycanthropes–but that doesn’t mean there aren’t others. I mean, the methods of removing or reinstating hexenbiest powers are pretty specific, as are the conditions for creating a pure lycanthrope…which is not a Wesen as the term is usually understood, but has a lot of similarities with regards to dual nature, increased powers, etc.

Maybe it’s the same for other Wesen, and those conditions have just never happened because they are so specific and there have never been groups of Wesen, humans, and Grimms who were quite as cozy and wildly experimental as our beloved Team Grimm. I mean, the rest of the Wesen world seems to be pretty dedicated to maintaining the status quo, believing whatever’s easiest, and not asking a lot of hard questions (just look at how ready even Rosalee was to allow the Wesen council to murder a child just because he had an illness!).

But I digress. The point is…what if all of the strangeness the team has encountered–Grimms, Wesen, magic, mystical illnesses, etc–are all originally from this parallel world? What if Wesen nature roams this world freely in its purest form, without any human side?

I mean, going back–as I seem to be doing with increasing frequency–to all the similarities between this show and David Greenwalt’s other baby, Angel, what if this is similar to demonic realms in the Buffyverse? What if it’s like when they went to Pylea in Angel?

And if that’s the case, how will that affect someone like Nick who goes there, or someone like Juliette/Eve? If she woges, will her Wesen side be stronger and take over completely? Or will her Wesen side be significantly weaker by comparison in a place of such strong magic, and leave her unable to completely woge and protect herself and/or Nick?

Will Nick’s Grimm powers be stronger in this place, or weaker? Could he possibly have a more pronounced “Grimm form” that we’ve never seen before, and that we’ll get to see now?

Actually…what if Grimm, like Wesen, are originally from this other world? What if that skull face they keep seeing in the mirror is the purest form of a Grimm?

Hiiii guys, happy (a little late) new year !! Are you all excited(or fearing) for the new episode ? Do you guys have any theories for the series finale ? Mari.

We are VERY excited! I dunno about the other admins, but I have very few theories. One of my favorite things about Grimm is that they have always kept me guessing. But I do have a few things I fully expect:

  1. We will finally see what kind of powers baby Kelly has.
  2. It will be confirmed that Juliette is back or at least that Juliette/Eve are not quite so separate anymore.
  3. Sean Renard will be dead by season’s end.

Mostly I just really want to see what that Stick of Destiny’s consequences are.

Random thought

What if Zuri is one of the crazy wesen that’s part of black claw and is trying to get back in with Hank to lure him away from Nick?…i mean she did refer to Nick as “the Grimm”…

nymphsenchantment submitted this

I (Mod Siobhan) think you’re right! A sudden change of heart, being in Hank’s local food shop* when it’s waay across town from where she lives, her previous very rigid stance on Human/Wesen relationships. Her brother is away at college, so not in harm’s way, and she did grill him a bit about Nick…

And since we’ve not seen Black Claw specifically go after Nick, only attack him when he was with HW, this must be their plan, since there is no way they think they can hold Portland with Nick still alive…

(*Grocery store? Siobhan can’t American very well)

senoritaespanola:

fuckyeahnickburkhardt:

Jeff Miller is as excited as we are about “Lycanthropia!” (x)

Don’t we already have this in Blutbaden?
(I missed tonight’s episode and the preview for next week. Also, I’m dead tired. But I thought that was supposed to be Blutbaden

My understanding is that blutbaden are the origin of the “Big Bad Wolf” in fairy tales, not werewolves. I don’t know how they’re going to make the distinction, since it does look like blutbaden are involved somehow.

If I had to guess I’d say it’s another “Wesen Virus” of some kind that affects a blutbad’s ability to control their woge and makes them violent.

But again…that’s just me guessing. We’ll see next week!

Source: twitter.com

So my theory regarding hexengrimm babies (assuming such a child has even happened before this) is that normally, the grimm blood would overrule the hexenbiest and the kid would be a grimm, or even just plain human (like they almost cancel each other out, like maybe they’re opposing sides of the same magic, okay okay ignore me and my pet headcanon).

But in this case…who even knows? Because Adalind is way more than she was when Nick took her powers, and Nick is way more than HE was at that time, too. So who even knows.

An Alternate Take on Trubel’s Mysterious Caller

So while ranting about Grimm with my sisters on facebook, the baby sis presented an interesting theory about Trubel’s mysterious phone call. With her permission, I am reposting the theory here (in a form more conducive to tumblr than facebook comments).

So when Trubel is in the car with Bud, a woman calls her. Not Nick. She lies to Bud and says it’s Nick, but we know it’s not. Little Sister’s theory is that it was Juliette who called Trubel, not Agent Chavez as popular fan interpretation suggests.

The basis for this theory? We saw throughout Juliette’s descent into Major Antagonist that she was conflicted at times. It was almost like there were two Juliettes: the angry, vengeful, blithely sadistic hexenbiest who liked her powers and the scared, confused, hurting woman who felt she was losing herself a little at a time. One of them wanted to be helped, to have this magic undone. The other wanted to keep the power, and use it to punish everyone who had hurt her, even her friends.

We also saw that the Juliette we know and love came most strongly to the surface in moments just after the hexenbiest had done something uncharacteristically vengeful or violent–trying to crush Adalind to death, blowing up a car, etc.

So the theory is that Juliette really was fighting hard against her hexenbiest side, but that it was too powerful for her. The hexenbiest would have gotten on that plane, but Juliette? Juliette came to the surface after Nick’s mother was dead, and she stayed long enough to do what she had to do.

She knew she was dangerous. She knew Nick could never forgive her for what she’d helped bring about. And she knew that the only hope of her being even partially cured had been destroyed. So…what if she wanted to die?

What if Trubel already knew that Juliette was a hexenbiest? What if Juliette had contacted her, turned to her in a moment of desperation when all her other friends failed her? It would certainly explain why Trubel failed to look completely fucking floored by the revelation. She barely looked surprised at all when they told her.

So Juliette comes to the surface and realizes that she’s finally done something there is no coming back from. It doesn’t matter if it wasn’t technically her or not. It feels like her. She has a feeling Nick won’t see a difference, even if she can stay in control long enough to really explain it to him.

Her only choices? Go with the Royals, and likely hurt more people…probably be used to hurt her friends again in the future. Stay in Portland and kill Nick. Or stay in Portland, and let Nick kill her. Because as far as she’s concerned, there is no option in which she gets to come back. She’s lost everything, burned every bridge.

So in a moment of lucidity, she calls Trubel. What does she say to her that makes Trubel look so grave? The conversation is short and mostly one-sided. “Listen to me. I’m going home. I know Nick will find me there. I know I can’t come back, there’s no forgiveness for what I’ve done. If he can’t do it, Trubel…I need you to.” Trubel would know what she meant. And she quietly voices her assent and hangs up. Lies to Bud, says it was Nick.

Then the confrontation at the house. Why else would she do that? Why else wouldn’t she get on that helicopter? The hexenbiest wanted revenge but she was also really gung-ho about her own survival. That ‘copter represented a chance to gather the strength to take them all out and come back next season ringing Hell’s bells in their faces. But she doesn’t do it. She goes…home. To face Nick. To tell him she didn’t mean for this to happen. To die.

She tells Nick to kill her, taunts him, attacks him…and he can’t do it. Like she knew he wouldn’t be able to, no matter what she had done. And that’s where Trubel comes in. 

How else do you explain Trubel, who got so attached to Juliette, who adored Juliette, who found her harder to say goodbye to than anyone else in Portland…just putting two arrows in her chest like it’s nothing? Are we meant to believe that much has changed in the few short weeks Trubel was gone from Portland? Or does it make more sense to believe that Trubel acted completely within what we know of her character: she did what she had to do, what she was meant to do (stop dangerous Wesen and protect others), and she did it because Juliette asked her–maybe begged her–to do it if Nick couldn’t.

Personally, this is the best theory I’ve read all hiatus, and I’m not just saying that because she’s my sister. I think it actually explains a lot of things that otherwise don’t make much sense in the season four finale. Tell me what you guys think!

Grimm Fans

sexytrekkie:

I was under the impression that the actress Bitsie asked to leave Grimm and they killed off her character because they didn’t know what else to do, because that is how NBC thinks. Was I told wrong?

As far as I have seen, there has been no official announcement on whether Juliette is staying dead in season 5. The writers and Bitsie herself have been doing a lot of teasing and trolling, but have also outright said they aren’t telling us for sure until the season 5 premiere. They want us guessing.

There was one TVLine interview that’s been quoted out of context a lot to make it sound like she’s gone for good, but if you actually read the whole interview, the creators are laughing, joking, and being evasive. When asked if they’re serious, Kouf replies cryptically that he’s as serious as he usually is.

Google “Grimm Juliette dies dead” (overkill much?) and read for yourself. Sorry for the lack of a direct link…mobile.

TL;DR: Believe nothing the writers tell you on hiatus because they troll.