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Ah but see, Hexenbeitst side effects. Being a Hexenbeist isn’t a side effect no matter how it happened, plus if it was the being a hexenbeist why is it side effects instead of side effect. Maybe it just means the whole homicidal, cruel, evil changes it made to her. Cause I mean Adalind’s showing Hexenbeists aren’t automatically like that. Unless it is being a hexenbeist, in which case I’m wrong. Hope not though, with Wu going all cave man she’d be the only one with no real protection.

Juliette’s transformation has been referred to, both in canon and by the cast and writers–and in fandom too, for that matter–as a “side effect” or “side effects” since it happened. David is the master of being coy in interviews, so again it’s possible that she’s still a hexenbiest. But I don’t personally find it very likely based on that choice of words alone, just because there’s so much precedent already for simply referring to Juliette’s whole hexenbiest transformation, with rather comically gross understatement, as “side effects.”

Also, the writers have kind of written themselves into a corner by constantly insisting via both Adalind and Eve this season that being a hexenbiest or a zauberbiest does make a person homicidal, cruel, and evil (and power-hungry), whether they want to be that way or not, unless there’s some kind of outside intervention (i.e. HW brainwashing or a suppressant).

Granted, the writers have yet to explain how that jives with Adalind’s current behavior or all of her previous bad behavior while she didn’t have her powers, but that doesn’t unwrite what they’ve written so much as make me go:

Hey there. So I saw the facebook live chat David and Sasha did a few weeks ago, and in it David said before they knew they would get renewed for season 6, the writers had written 2 different scenarios for the ending. My guess is that moment when Renard kills Bonaparte. Like, Renard could’ve killed Bonaparte out of his own free will to redeem himself with Team Grimm. What’s your take on it? My brother said it totally seemed forced that way, but I want to know what fellow Grimmsters think.

I hope if they wrote a different ending in case of cancellation, it changed more than just Sean choosing to help Nick. Because while that would have at least slightly given his character the option of being redeemed in my eyes, it wouldn’t have even remotely provided closure for the series’s multiple unfinished plot threads or any of the characters, including Sean.

So…if they wrote two different endings, I hope it was more like two different last-thirty-minutes, not two different last-three-seconds.

You should probably get this out there, but Juliette is still a Hexenbeist. The one time we saw someone having that removed was with Adalind, and that witch ghost thing burst out of her. When Adalind lost her Hexenbeist side the second time that didn’t happen because it was suppressed not removed, so she was still technically a Hexenbeist.

Actually, we have no way of knowing that for sure, for two reasons:

  1. Juliette/Eve was not a regular hexenbiest. The way she got her powers was completely unprecedented, so there’s no way to say for certain that the same rules apply for if she lost them.
  2. The magic stick is brand new to us, and if I had to guess I’d say its use on hexenbiests is also completely unprecedented. So there’s no reason to think that a hexenbiest’s powers being “purged” by it would look the same.

Finally, we do have this tidbit in an interview with David Giuntoli that suggests she is indeed not a hexenbiest anymore:

“Yeah, that stick is to hexenbiests what penicillin is to human beings. It just kind of cures all. The stick looks like it cured Juliette of her mortal wounds, or would-have-been mortal wounds, and in the meantime also kind of cured her of her hexenbiest side effects, I suppose. And we see that with Juliette, and I think that if that moment had happened at any other moment, it would have been a much longer moment, but we were in the process of being ambushed so Nick didn’t have a lot of time to process that. But it’s in the back of Nick’s mind. “

(Source)

You could still be right. Maybe Juliette is still a hexenbiest, and all it did was break through Eve’s mental block and what Hadrian’s Wall did to her. But if so, all of that woge-ing, convulsing, and de-woge-ing seems a little bit of an odd way to show it.

Either way, it’ll certainly be interesting to see how the team deals with it!

teamrebecchi:

i always wondered where this perception that grimm’s were unkillable came from. i mean, it was such an odd thing for wesen to believe, especially since we saw and were made aware of the fact that grimm’s were NOT invincible. they might be harder to kill but they can be killed and yet, a perception like that would have had to have come from somewhere and what if it was connected to the stick. we saw nick get shot twice, once straight through the heart. he should have been dead and the cop who shot him thought he was dead only to literally have him rise from the dead to kill him. i completely forgot that nick had that stick in his pocket and was just blown away by the fact that he wasn’t killed and knowing that he had it on him during that fight made me wonder…what if the same thing happened centuries ago? grimm’s had that stick or pieces of it on them and were attacked or killed by wesen only to get up and continue fighting? anyone who saw that would think that grimm’s were invincible and perhaps that is where the reapers came from. they were created specifically to kill grimm’s because everyone believed that they were unkillable. they kill grimm’s by cutting off their heads but what purpose can taking the heads with them serve unless, they thought it was the only way to make sure that grimm’s were unable to come back to life after they had died. pretty out there theory, i know but after the finale – it just feels like a lot that was unexplained throughout the series just suddenly makes sense.