Tag: the end

so nadalind is endgame. sorry grimm that was NOT the ending I wanted not at all. how could you burn seven years of history and dynamic for six months of forced passionate obsessive drama/romance? maybe its just me but that sucked and i’m really mad about it. i feel like i’ve been cheated by the writers. i used to love you grimm. why’d you have to go changing on me with stupid plots and a forced fake love story. silverhardt and the fans deserved better than this :'(

I’m…working through it, tbh. It’s pretty clear that’s what they want us to take from the finale scenes in the present day. But in a way, they still left it very open to interpretation by using no direct names of the original Team Grimm in the “20 years later” epilogue.

So. I’m disappointed as well. Very much so. But I’m trying to hold onto a few things:

  • Eve doesn’t get killed off in the end.
  • She gets to keep the powers that she clearly wanted to keep, giving her a way to protect herself and the people she cares about in this dangerous world they live in.
  • She’s happy and in a good place with all the rest of the team.
  • Not pursuing something with Nick again was very clearly framed as her choice, not his. So little about her arc and their relationship was her choice; I’m glad that she got to choose this, at least.

It’s entirely possible that, given time, things could have changed from what we saw in the final scenes. I know it’s unlikely, and it’s unlikely the writers ever meant us to interpret it that way. But. I’m taking what I can get because I love this show other than that heinously bad romantic subplot, and I don’t want to let it ruin all of the other good things about the show that I love.

The thing that bothers me the most about what Diana said about killing wesen is that we are supposed to believe that Nick raised Kelly and Diana and that to me just seems so out of character. That Nick would raise either of them to have a belief or even joke about something like that when for 6 years, he and the show were about showcasing that everything isn’t black and white and that there are other ways to handle wesen. It just bothers me that this was presented as possibly Nick’s influence. 1

Especially with the producers saying that it was a family thing with Nick/Adalind/Diana/Kelly. That line if Diana was genuine comes back to how she was probably raised and taught to think. I wish they had chosen another line. 2

See my previous answer for the reasons why it may not be Adalind and Nick she’s referring to when Diana says “mom and dad.”

That being said, the rest of your point stands. I find the line creates a lot of disconcerting possibilities around how Kelly and Diana grew up, and what they learned from their parents and the other adults in their lives. Then again…even the most well-meaning parents can sometimes instill prejudices in their kids.

I mean look at how quick Monroe was throughout the series to stereotype different Wesen, even as a Wesen who had consciously and deliberately made a choice to do something different with his life than the “old world” way. Even after being a victim of the ugliest forms of prejudice in his world and nearly losing his life, he was still quick to judge and pigeonhole other Wesen in certain situations.

So I see how it could happen even if Nick didn’t intend it to…but I still really, really wish they had chosen a different line.

I found the “wesen to kill” line in bad taste, but I liked the “mom and dad” one even less. It’s Diana saying it, but it still sounds like they want it to mean Nick and Adalind, doesn’t it? :(

It’s hard to say. I doubt Diana would ever call Nick “dad.” Granted, she might if she grew up being parented by both him and Sean more or less equally from a young age.

I grew up in a very blended family situation, and I’ve seen both. I call my stepmother “momma,” for example, because she’s been a mother to me since I was three. Then again, one of my sisters calls her parents “mom” and “dad” and my father “Uncle D—.” And my other sister calls her parents “mom” and “dad” and her sister’s father by his first name. And it’s just understood that whoever’s talking means their biological parents when they say “mom” or “dad.”

So it’s entirely possible that when she says “mom and dad” she means Adalind and Sean, and Kelly understands this. It’s also possible that at some point she started calling Nick “dad” as well…but I find it somewhat unlikely, since she consistently called him Nick throughout the series.

I am frustrated at the finale cause they neither showed us the triplets nor did we get a Monroe and Nick hug but it is still extremely good since I did not expect the happy ending farewell my beloved show 😭

Same! I was hoping to get to see their triplets. I’m considering doing a fan cast of them at some point.

But at the same time, I kind of understand. They had thirteen episodes to answer as many of the questions and tie up as many of the plotlines as possible, and there was no way they were going to be able to tell us everything, much less show us everything. So I’m really glad that, at the very least, we know that Monroe and Rosalee had their kids and that those kids grew up and remained close with Diana and Kelly. 

Can I ask- how did you feel about the last line Diana said in the finale? I felt like her saying “we have wesen to kill” kinda seemed like a disservice to the what the characters had gone through to prove that nothing is as black and white as Grimm vs. Wesen. I wish it was something more like “we have a war to fight” or something like that but maybe it’s just me…

It’s not just you. I agree with you. I wish they had found another line to give her that would have indicated they’re still fighting the good fight. I mean, they have three presumably-close friends who are Wesen. Technically, Diana is also Wesen, albeit very different from any others we’ve seen. Her parents are Wesen. One of Kelly’s parents is Wesen. Kelly actually has a chance of having a Wesen child one day, as does Diana potentially.

So having her say “we have Wesen to kill” and having Kelly be totally fine with that seems like a really messed-up line, and not at all in keeping with the themes of the rest of the show.

I mean, there are so many other options:

  • “We have a job to do.”
  • “We have work to do.”
  • “We have a case.”
  • “Time to fight the good fight.”

There are tons of lines that would have done a better job of conveying what they were trying to convey.