I’m starting to think Skull face is some kind of wesen god or the devil. And that portal seems like purgatory. Julieve and nick cheated death and they were not innocent when they did. So this Thing wants the soul that was coming it’s way. The same can’t go for diana, but she is this force that is extremely powerful, unpredictable and uncontrollable. Either skull face wants to set the world right or it wants to use her for dominion over earth. But then monroe was also cured, y can’t he see it?

That’s certainly a possibility, although you’re right, this Wesen god/devil’s concept of innocence would have to be pretty in-the-moment or subjective because we all know Monroe has some messed up shit in his past.

I personally think the other world is some kind of primeval universe where Wesen originated, perhaps in a less human form than we know them in our world in the show.

Wesen as we know them in the world of Grimm are humans with a hidden side that resembles an animal or folk creature–wolves, foxes, goats, sheep, rabbits, rats, snakes, mice, birds, merpeople, dragons, etc.

But what if they descended from beings that were less human, who had nothing to hide that side behind? Or what if the Wesen nature is more like a symbiotic relationship, virus, or possession? We’ve only seen a few examples to support this–hexenbiests, grausen, and lycanthropes–but that doesn’t mean there aren’t others. I mean, the methods of removing or reinstating hexenbiest powers are pretty specific, as are the conditions for creating a pure lycanthrope…which is not a Wesen as the term is usually understood, but has a lot of similarities with regards to dual nature, increased powers, etc.

Maybe it’s the same for other Wesen, and those conditions have just never happened because they are so specific and there have never been groups of Wesen, humans, and Grimms who were quite as cozy and wildly experimental as our beloved Team Grimm. I mean, the rest of the Wesen world seems to be pretty dedicated to maintaining the status quo, believing whatever’s easiest, and not asking a lot of hard questions (just look at how ready even Rosalee was to allow the Wesen council to murder a child just because he had an illness!).

But I digress. The point is…what if all of the strangeness the team has encountered–Grimms, Wesen, magic, mystical illnesses, etc–are all originally from this parallel world? What if Wesen nature roams this world freely in its purest form, without any human side?

I mean, going back–as I seem to be doing with increasing frequency–to all the similarities between this show and David Greenwalt’s other baby, Angel, what if this is similar to demonic realms in the Buffyverse? What if it’s like when they went to Pylea in Angel?

And if that’s the case, how will that affect someone like Nick who goes there, or someone like Juliette/Eve? If she woges, will her Wesen side be stronger and take over completely? Or will her Wesen side be significantly weaker by comparison in a place of such strong magic, and leave her unable to completely woge and protect herself and/or Nick?

Will Nick’s Grimm powers be stronger in this place, or weaker? Could he possibly have a more pronounced “Grimm form” that we’ve never seen before, and that we’ll get to see now?

Actually…what if Grimm, like Wesen, are originally from this other world? What if that skull face they keep seeing in the mirror is the purest form of a Grimm?

I just wrote a really long post on one of your response to an ask. I’m really sorry if it offended you or is an inconvenience. It is just that i was getting tired of all the ship wars. Going into the tags becomes exhausting instead of fun. The nadalind shippers going after juliette and the nickette shippers going after adalind. They are both amazing characters whose storylines are not nicely handled by the writers. So anyway i’m so sorry that i high jacked your post.

No worries! Believe me, I feel you on the ship war exhaustion. I don’t even go into the fandom tags for certain characters or ships anymore because I know I’m not going to see anything but wank.

That being said, it’s worth noting that opponents of Nadalind sometimes have very good reasons for why they feel the way they do about that ship. There’s a whole Marianas Trench of difference between “I don’t like this ship, it’s not my bag” and “one of these characters raped the other one and therefore the thought of them in a romantic or sexual relationship squicks me the hell out and sends a terrible message that perpetuates rape culture.” I’ve even heard from multiple fans that they were too triggered by the show taking it canon to continue watching last season. So. Just gonna leave that there.

But in the interest of helping people avoid The Discourse surrounding the whole Juliette/Adalind/Nadalind/Silverhardt mess the show and fans have gotten snarled into, maybe a tag specifically for that would be a good idea? That way if you want to blacklist it you can, and this can at least be one blog where you don’t have to see any more of that ongoing discussion/argument if you don’t want to. Because we really try to stay away from pitting women against each other or engaging with ship wars, but…well, it comes up in the asks a lot (like enough that we started deleting what were basically the same questions/comments being submitted over and over), and I’m an argumentative little shit who can’t not give 5000-word responses when I strongly disagree with something someone has written. So.

The tag will be “hexendebate” (all one word to make sure it’s caught by Tumblr Savior and the like), and it will be added to any posts, reblogs, replies, or ask answers that veer into comparing/contrasting/pitting the two women or ships against one another.

Isn’t there a resistence group in grimm. Last i remember it does have a few members who are alive. So where are they now? I do realize that black claw is a threat all over the world but i think diana in the hands of black claw is a bigger threat. I think Portland can really use a little help from the resistance at the moment. And if HW is part of the resistance then they might need more active members other than eve, meisner and trubel.

Hey there, Admin Liz here! There is a group known as The Resistance in the Grimm!verse – and we haven’t really heard from them in a while. It’s never been explained how extensive their membership is, what they’re doing exactly, or where they are centered (if anywhere). Previously, they were framed as the opposition of the Royals, which is why we probably haven’t heard from them in a while (after the death of one of the kings last season, the Royals seem to have gone dark).

In that same vein, Hadrian’s Wall seems to be the force opposing Black Claw. The membership of HW is probably bigger than we realize, we’ve just never been introduced to any of it’s other members (need-to-know and all that).

I, personally, don’t think these four groups are necessarily linked in any way other than that they’re all fighting each other, and fighting for the same power. Eventually, I think they’ll bring all four together in a giant battle, with Team Grimm in the center, but that’s my own personal wish. But I definitely agree, Team Grimm could use some help – if only we knew who they could trust.