DOes it count as them killing your favourite character when the actor is still walking around on set theoretically “playing” him? Like Rennard is still my favourite character but I feel like going back and watching season 1 through 4 and stopping to feel better now….

Hi there – Admin Liz here. He’s dead to me too right now, so sure, you can say they killed your fave. I loved pre-season five Renard as well, but at this point idk if he will ever be able to redeem himself. I’m sorry for your loss, Grimmster.

Gotta be honest, I lasted 5 minutes before I bailed tonight. I don’t know if I can handle this episode. I really don’t know if I can handle another show making my favourite character *evil/bad guy* again and watch wondering if they’ll die….

I completely understand. That’s how I felt last year watching what was happening to Juliette. I did a lot of screaming at my screen then, too.

@pixiedustandbluebutterflies and I have talked about this a bit, and the way we see it, there are only a few possible explanations here:

  1. Sean has really gone all the way over to the dark side. This was always in him and we just never saw it because it was so hidden (this would be bad writing and a complete character assassination, imo).
  2. Sean has really gone all the way over to the dark side. This was always in him and we never saw it because we didn’t want to, but it was clearly there (this would be terrible but also really good writing; I could grudgingly get on board with this).
  3. Sean is playing some kind of long game of his own, and doesn’t really believe in anything Black Claw stands for (this seems less and less likely with each episode).
  4. Sean is doing this all for his daughter, and doesn’t really believe in anything Black Claw stands for (this also seems less likely after that last episode).
  5. Sean went into this initially to save Diana, but Diana has been controlling Sean since the moment Black Claw brought her to him (this is the one I’m hoping for tbh, it would explain so much).

All the Grimm blogs are scaring me tonight, I haven’t seen it yet (48minutes….) Renard is my favourite character and it sounds like I’m going to scream at my television…

Please accept this virtual hug and huge spoilers under the cut:


Sean isn’t dead or anything but it’s seriously looking like it might go that way. He’s sided completely with Black Claw and seems to actually buy into their idea of a world run by Wesen, and he tried to recruit Nick to their cause and convince him that together they could create a better world (it was all very Luke and Darth Vader at the end of Empire, really).

So now Nick wants Sean dead, pretty much every member of Team Grimm is on board, and the only thing keeping Sean alive right now is the fact that he and Black Claw have Kelly.