Oh! I would have loved to see some more hybrids (consensually made, of course) like a zauberbiest/musai. I like the idea of crossing two of the deadliest/seductive wesen. Or!! A selkie inspired wesen, since they’re one of my favourite mythological creatures.
The word was Vorherrscher, but that’s more a general term for the offspring of two different types of Wesen, not something that’s specific to a Blutbad and Fuchsbau.
According to Rosalee and Monroe, the offspring of two different types of Wesen will have the traits of the dominant Wesen species. It’s not clear what is meant by “dominant” in this case, but either way the implication is that their kids will carry the genes of both types but only display the traits (woge and abilities) of one parent.
I hope we get the Grimm spin-off too! And I hope we get to see those lil babies all grown up and badass.
I don’t recall this Wesen myself, and I haven’t been able to find it anywhere other than the brief appearance of one in the journals in season 5, as you mentioned.
There are a few Wesen with tusks or horns, but none of them are mentioned as being hunted for them as far as I recall. There’s the Schinderdiv with large-ish tusks and the Fuilcre with large-ish horns. There’s also a unicorn-like Wesen called an Abath, with a single horn protruding from its forehead, but again…I don’t think this is the one you’re after.
At some point I plan to do a Grimm rewatch to finish the Grimm Stats and the glossary page. When I do I’ll be sure to keep a lookout!
I would probably be a Bauerschwein. I’m not naturally a combative person but can be pushed to that place eventually, I hold grudges like a boss, and I LOVE me a good bath (not a mud bath…a bath bomb bath…but I did once cover myself in dirt as a kid because I saw on the discovery channel that elephants use this method to keep bugs away and cool down from the heat. And whattaya know…it worked!).
Admin D would most definitely be a fuchsbau…she can elaborate on that for you if she wants. 😛 Aaaaand I can’t speak for the other admins but they’re welcome to chime in!
My favorite Wesen species/type is probably the blutbad. I know, I know, we have tons to choose from and I pick the first one we ever meet?
But I think that’s kind of why. Blutbaden were the first Wesen type we met and the first where we really got to know the individual characters behind the faces. And we’ve met a lot of them compared to most of the other types: the first MotW villain, Monroe, the Lassers, Holly, Bart and Alice, and at least two of Monroe’s blutbad friends. As a result, we probably know more about blutbaden than any other Wesen type, even fuchsbaus.
And then, too, I just love Monroe, so much. His tendency to ramble and be an endless font of knowledge about this world (and various and sundry other things) along with his early friendship with Nick were the main reasons I fell so in love with the show that I kept watching past the first few episodes.
I can only imagine the look Monroe and Rosalee would give anyone who called their children a “litter.” I would just back away slowly and let the combined wrath of the sweater-clad nerds-in-love of Team Grimm descend upon that unfortunate soul. xD
I think it probably doesn’t work the same way for Wesen as it does for animals. Rosalee had two siblings but they were different ages. Monroe, as far as we know, has no siblings at all. Lt. Orson had two brothers and Angelina had two brothers, but there was no suggestion of twins or triplets anywhere there, either.
The way Bud talks about his family implies he has several kids, and somehow I always headcanoned that he had between 5 and 7 kids all together, but I don’t know that we’ve ever gotten a concrete number so it could be as few as two. And we saw a rabbit-Wesen not too long ago who had only two children, and rabbits are known for multiplying like…well, rabbits.
So I don’t know if it’s something that makes sense because they’re Wesen necessarily. It could just be luck of the draw.
So with the introduction of Josh as a non-Grimm son of a Grimm, I’ve been working on the theory that “Grimm-ness” is inherited as a dominant sex-linked trait and it has to be X-linked dominant inheritance.
Based on these permutations, I would like to take one…
My only question is, and I could just be missing something here, is Josh (the human son of a male Grimm) completely confirmed to not be a Grimm, or is it possible he just hasn’t presented as a Grimm yet?
And this opens up a whole new aspect to Grimm genetics- like, it’s been established that girls grow into their Grimm-ness much early than boys, which implies that the gene activates during a certain age window. But what triggers it? Hormones?
And it might not have anything to do with age, since girls could have two copies of the Grimm gene and therefore have a higher chance than boys of encountering whatever causes the activation.
(Though I’m leaning towards the age theory, because Nick began seeing Wesen before there was really anything that could work as a trigger)
So that would make being a Grimm a sort of second puberty, right? The same way that Wesen do it- remember that episode with the little girl (I think she was a badger Wesen?) who presented as a Wesen long before puberty- which established that shifting into Wesen isn’t something that presents at birth nor is it something that happens alongside puberty. Maybe Grimms do it the same way.
In that case, unless I’m mistaken, Josh could still end up a Grimm- just an immature one right now. Because, honestly, he doesn’t look that old and Nick was in his mid/late-twenties before he began seeing Wesen.
(BTW, I love doing genetics problems, so this is wonderful)
(Also, where’s the post on Wesen genetic distribution? I’m of the belief that Grimms are more like Wesen than either group would like to admit, so it might help to look at both; see if anything makes more sense that way.)
I mean, they kind of implied that the impending death of a family member could trigger it in male Grimms in the series pilot, which would mean Josh is absolutely not a Grimm since his father died and he didn’t start seeing Wesen. But that theory was never fully explained or expanded upon, and couldn’t be as simple as a traditional familial line of succession, since we later learn that Kelly was still alive when Marie died.
Now if Nick were Marie’s son instead of Kelly’s, and Marie was the older sibling (not sure that’s ever confirmed), then it might make a little more sense, as a traditional line of succession would usually go through the eldest child and their offspring first. But Kelly was already a Grimm, so that doesn’t quite work, either.
Unfortunately, we have so few Grimm families to go on that it makes it hard to come up with a complete theory that covers all bases and closes all loopholes. And I highly doubt Kelly Jr. will clarify matters at all, since he’s a special case with no known precedent and likely won’t follow any of the “rules” of usual Grimm inheritance (whatever those may be).
I do agree that Grimms are more like Wesen than either would like to admit. But all we know from the show when it comes to Wesen genetics is explained thus by Monroe and Rosalee in “Stories We Tell Our Young”:
Wesen + Human = 50/50 chance of Wesen child (Sean is one example)
Kehrseite-Genträger* + Wesen = Wesen child
Two Different Wesen =
Vorherrscher** (Monroe and Rosalee’s baby will be an example)
*A human who carries a Wesen gene but shows no Wesen characteristics, i.e. cannot woge.
**A hybrid Wesen with a combination of both parents’ traits, with the dominant genes’ characteristics being more prominent. It is not explicitly stated what makes some Wesen genes more dominant.
That explanation is actually part of how @irreverentcatalyst worked out this theory, if I remember correctly. She reasoned that it couldn’t work exactly like that for humans, because of what we knew of Nick and Josh’s parentage. Therefore, there had to be another factor, such as the Grimm traits being linked to sex chromosomes.
We did get a tweet from the writers at one point that the science in her theory was sound, but they coyly refused to confirm or deny it as absolute fact (as they said those “big-M Mythology” details were held close to the chest by the show creators).
Twitter user @MarvClowder had an interesting question during our liveblog/livetweet of “Inugami,” with regards to why it’s the involuntary emotional reaction that only Grimms and other Wesen can see, versus the intentional, controlled reaction. Since the Wesen is out of control in the first instance, shouldn’t anyone be able to see the woge?
I confess I was drawing a blank on this one, but Admin D (@irreverentcatalyst) has, once again, come through with an answer (which I have typed up because she doesn’t feel like it).
The answer is that it has less to do with what the Wesen is intending in the first (emotional, involuntary) instance, and more to do with the biology of a Grimm. To make it a little clearer, let’s put it in terms that make a little more sense in our world.
Think of it in terms of pheromones. Imagine a living creature (a Wesen) that gives off a pheromone. Now imagine that only certain other living creatures have the genetic marker that allows them to perceive it (Grimms).
It’s an involuntary action, something done without intention and without control, but it’s still also something unnoticeable unless you have the biology that allows you to pick up on it (like the extra cones in a Grimm’s eyes, for instance).
A good example might be certain animals being able to sniff out our fear. Our adrenaline gives off an odor they can perceive, but that doesn’t mean any of the people in the room can smell that we’re afraid.
On the other hand, imagine a creature (Wesen) can intentionally give off a very pungent scent (like a skunk, for example) that anyone with a sense of smell can and will notice. Not a particularly flattering comparison for Wesen, but I think it gets the point across?
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